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Posted: 16 Apr 2014, 15:25
by mh
Almost certainly a graveyard to the left, though.

Posted: 16 Apr 2014, 23:53
by Nikolas Vitus Lagartija
Have done a bit more research on the church issue and have found lots of churches in Cornwall of a similar style of construction but only one (in St Columb Major) that has one of those buttresses. I also found quite a few in West Wales (from Pembrokeshire to Anglesey) of similar construction. There was also a church in Kent which had almost identical gate pillars to the unusual design of the DD ones with the weird marble inlay, and that church was rebuilt in the 1860s, so the neo-gothic private chapel idea may not be far wrong.
Looking at photos of the late Victorian/Edwardian era, the definition of the DD pic seems unusually sharp, and given the "hovering" appearance of the girl on the right, it may well be a decoupage montage (ie Victorian Photoshop equivalent).

Posted: 17 Apr 2014, 09:30
by markfiend
"Marble inlay"? It looks to me like dressed stone corners on a pillar that's flint cobble construction, like the rest of the surrounding wall (and the church itself, I think).

Like this:
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Also, I'm not seeing the "hovering" effect that a couple of people have noticed.

Thirdly, I wonder if the buttress visible at the corner of the church is evidence of a larger building, that the church we see was once part of?

Posted: 17 Apr 2014, 19:07
by Johnny Rev 7.0
I can't help with the church questions, so I'm just looking at the picture from a body language perspective.

For ease of reference I've labelled the figures (from L-R) M1, F1, F2, F3, M2.

1. Take out F2 and M2 and what do you have? M1 (father watching anxiously, but static) and F1 (mother static, clutching Bible) as F3 (daughter, static) pays her respects to a family grave. Possibly recent, judging by M1's heels off the floor. So the private chapel idea comes into play. Not a funeral but a Sunday service.

2. The "hovering" effect is created by F2 appearing to be in motion. If F3 is static, why would F2 be in motion?

So going back to NVL's decoupage montage explanation.

1. F2: Whilst I can see skin tone in M1, F1 and F3, I see none in F2 even though she's in full profile. I can also see the matching (Mother and daughter?) monochrome stripe/seam on F1 and F3's skirts. F2's is solid black.

2. M2: Looks like a bouncer from a Gentleman's club who's been decoupage montaged-in (if that's a real word). His Top hat is at a non-respectful angle, his shirt collar appears a bit skew-whiff, and it appears he's got his hands in his pockets. Whilst wearing a roller bladder knee-pad on his left leg. Standing in a flower-bed.

In conclusion, F2 and M2 are fakes.

Obviously, t​his won't help you guys find the church/chapel. But it was kinda interesting to write, as no one had ever looked at body language before.

Keep up the good work boys and girls. :kiss:

PS: I want a fucking shrine! Find it. Please.

Posted: 18 Apr 2014, 00:04
by eastmidswhizzkid
if we can't locate the DD church and we want a shrine that badly, somebody must know where this place is?


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Posted: 18 Apr 2014, 00:41
by Johnny Rev 7.0
Its in Leeds Uni's grounds isn't it? Didn't Fiendy mention it when he started work there as he could see it out his window?

Anyway, nothing but a bunch of hippy students posing, when they should be knuckling down and studying. Spare the rod, spare the child.

Personally, I would have birched the lot of them. And given them extra revision. :von:

Posted: 18 Apr 2014, 05:50
by eastmidswhizzkid
Johnny Rev 7.0 wrote:
Personally, I would have birched the lot of them. And given them extra revision. :von:
at andrew's height he'd be perfect for extra oral... :innocent: :twisted:

Posted: 18 Apr 2014, 11:01
by million voices
...and his hat would give you somewhere to rest your glass

Posted: 18 Apr 2014, 12:51
by markfiend
Yeah that picture is in St George's Field. behind the Henry Price building on Clarendon Road.

Posted: 18 Apr 2014, 14:28
by Norman Hunter
markfiend wrote:Yeah that picture is in St George's Field. behind the Henry Price building on Clarendon Road.
This one!

http://www.themarchingmen.co.uk/photoshoot/monument.jpg

Posted: 18 Apr 2014, 22:31
by stufarq
The 'floating girl' effect is an optical illusion created by the lack of definition on the path and the fact that her head is level with that of the woman behind her but her feet look much higher.

Posted: 18 Apr 2014, 22:32
by stufarq
million voices wrote:There's a church near me rather similar to that
But it doesn't have the cross on the top so I guess it's not the genuine article.
Must be a Japanese bootleg church.

Posted: 18 Apr 2014, 22:34
by Victim of Circumstance
stufarq wrote:
million voices wrote:There's a church near me rather similar to that
But it doesn't have the cross on the top so I guess it's not the genuine article.
Must be a Japanese bootleg church.
:lol: Most likely to be found in merciful Samurai movies :lol:

Posted: 19 Apr 2014, 00:00
by eastmidswhizzkid
million voices wrote:...and his hat would give you somewhere to rest your glass
LOL'd heartily at that! :lol:

Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 19:59
by jost 7
st mary's church guildford


who can take a current foto from the same view?

Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 21:34
by Nikolas Vitus Lagartija
jost 7 wrote:st mary's church guildford


who can take a current foto from the same view?
Really ? The window at Guildford looks far too narrow to be the DD one, although the church is in :von: 's old neck of the woods.

Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 21:59
by jost 7
Nikolas Vitus Lagartija wrote:
jost 7 wrote:st mary's church guildford


who can take a current foto from the same view?
Really ? The window at Guildford looks far too narrow to be the DD one, although the church is in :von: 's old neck of the woods.
look at http://www.geocaching.com/geocache/GC1A ... 56acfaa0b0

obviously all wall edges required a renewal, with decreasing the width and and even changing the upper arch of the windows

Posted: 21 Apr 2014, 22:25
by Victim of Circumstance
jost 7 wrote:
Nikolas Vitus Lagartija wrote:
jost 7 wrote:st mary's church guildford


who can take a current foto from the same view?
Really ? The window at Guildford looks far too narrow to be the DD one, although the church is in :von: 's old neck of the woods.
look at http://www.geocaching.com/geocache/GC1A ... 56acfaa0b0

obviously all wall edges required a renewal, with decreasing the width and and even changing the upper arch of the windows
This looks really good and could be the one on the DD cover, although the cross is missing or badly visible on the picture

Posted: 22 Apr 2014, 09:16
by jost 7
I am cofident the cross was taken by someone with a distinctive interest in music. So if YOU are the one, let us know!

Posted: 22 Apr 2014, 13:58
by stufarq
As well as the missing cross and much narrower windows, there's a distinct lack of path leading from the gate.

Posted: 22 Apr 2014, 16:30
by jost 7
I would even doubt that people attending sunday service do dress the same as in the picture these days

Posted: 23 Apr 2014, 22:12
by vince
jost 7 wrote:st mary's church guildford


who can take a current foto from the same view?
That's 15 miles from me - all I need now is 3 girls and a bloke who are willing to dress up like that again.........that party didn't end well last time, I can tell you....

Posted: 23 Apr 2014, 22:21
by lazarus corporation
If it is St Mary's in Guildford then I wonder if the photograph is by the author Lewis Carroll, who apparently was a deacon at that same church for a time.

Posted: 23 Apr 2014, 22:23
by Victim of Circumstance
vince wrote:
jost 7 wrote:st mary's church guildford


who can take a current foto from the same view?
That's 15 miles from me - all I need now is 3 girls and a bloke who are willing to dress up like that again.........that party didn't end well last time, I can tell you....
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: 23 Apr 2014, 22:24
by paint it black
lazarus corporation wrote:If it is St Mary's in Guildford then I wonder if the photograph is by the author Lewis Carroll, who apparently was a deacon at that same church for a time.
that had been my thought for quite some time. further, if it was his funeral - you won't believe how many hours i looked for stuff about that.

But, i came to the conclusion it wasn't that church, him, or anything to do with him - which is a shame really