goth at the bbc

[Pista]

Now of course we couldn't sanction sharing of illegally downloaded and copyrighted material. (636 MB)

I see what you did there

[markfiend]

I have no idea whether get_iplayer can be made to work on non-Linux platforms, but it's fecking amazing.

[czuczu]

I've got it running on Win 7 and its a thing of great wonder

[Nikolas Vitus Lagartija]

Was reading some reaction to GatBBC elsewhere and someone told a story about when they worked in a record store and someone came in and asked if they had a song by Bauhaus called "Bella The Goose is Dead"

[iesus]

Another proof that using hyper titles with the lyrics in a live is a good move

[Pista]

Was reading some reaction to GatBBC elsewhere and someone told a story about when they worked in a record store and someone came in and asked if they had a song by Bauhaus called "Bella The Goose is Dead"

[markfiend]

Yeah so I finally got round to watching it and I agree with the general "could do better" sentiment. Having said that, the only song I actually fast-forwarded through was Shakespeare's Sister. I always thought that they just latched onto the early-90's goth "look" purely for marketing purposes, and it always proper pïssed me off.

[Norman Hunter]

Yeah so I finally got round to watching it and I agree with the general "could do better" sentiment. Having said that, the only song I actually fast-forwarded through was Shakespeare's Sister. I always thought that they just latched onto the early-90's goth "look" purely for marketing purposes, and it always proper pïssed me off.

...And they were s**t.

[VonII]

Got the get_iplayer installed and everything, but in the end it couldn't download due to me being on the other side of the channel and all the financial/political ramifications that come with it, apparently. Did get it to work with the Hola extension for Chrome though.

That Specimen song is dreadful. Leather anorak, do you feel dark? Easing the gentleman out of the skin and other such quotes.

Was reading some reaction to GatBBC elsewhere and someone told a story about when they worked in a record store and someone came in and asked if they had a song by Bauhaus called "Bella The Goose is Dead"

[markfiend]

in the end it couldn't download

Did you notice my post on the previous page, quoted on the top of this one?

[Thoth_Hermes]

Yep, watched this. Basically just TOTP 2 goth(ish) stylee.

[Nikolas Vitus Lagartija]

That Specimen song is dreadful. :

And that's one of their better ones. That whole Batcave scene was the start of the style over substance aspect of goth that lead on that whole Steampunk thing that dominates the likes of WGW these days, and was an attempt by Southerners to hijack the decidedly Northern post-punk movement, rabidly encouraged by lazy Southern hacks who couldn't be arsed to go up to Leeds just to get sneered at over a pair of shades. Having said that, I must confess to having bought Specimen's first single...on bat-shaped vinyl. How goth was I ??

[mh]

That Specimen song is dreadful. :

And that's one of their better ones. That whole Batcave scene was the start of the style over substance aspect of goth that lead on that whole Steampunk thing that dominates the likes of WGW these days, and was an attempt by Southerners to hijack the decidedly Northern post-punk movement, rabidly encouraged by lazy Southern hacks who couldn't be arsed to go up to Leeds just to get sneered at over a pair of shades. Having said that, I must confess to having bought Specimen's first single...on bat-shaped vinyl. How goth was I ??

I thought Hex was OK; it had some appealing glam/thrash moves and didn't go on for about 40,000 bloody years. Everything else I've heard by them was a heap of steaming doo.

[VonII]

in the end it couldn't download

Did you notice my post on the previous page, quoted on the top of this one?

Yes, but I figured I wouldn't feel confident as an IT guy if I couldn't manage to make it work myself

[markfiend]

No, you're missing something

[AlixJH]

No, you're missing something

[Nikolas Vitus Lagartija]

Interesting new book about all things goth just out ...
http://louderthanwar.com/great-looking- ... ha-scharf/
Jon Klein (ex Specimen/Banshees) turned up at the launch. There's a book signing in Leeds later this month. Makes a change from Mick Bloody Mercer anyway.

[Phil]

Yeah so I finally got round to watching it and I agree with the general "could do better" sentiment. Having said that, the only song I actually fast-forwarded through was Shakespeare's Sister. I always thought that they just latched onto the early-90's goth "look" purely for marketing purposes, and it always proper pïssed me off.

Things like that and Depeche Mode make me wonder if they scoured the archives with the Mute button on.

[Phil]

When I was watching KJ in particular is struck me what a daft thing it is when these bands mime on the telly, not just TOTP. It is literally what we all did as kids in out bedrooms with tennis rackets or whatever.

It was nice to see a Paul Raven on TOTP who wasnt a perv, too.

[rien]

When I was watching KJ in particular is struck me what a daft thing it is when these bands mime on the telly, not just TOTP.

This is what has boggled my mind most whenever I delve into a band's history on YT. Do they still do the miming thing? How did people ever think that was a good idea? It's ridiculous. Didn't they trust any of these bands to b able to play?

[markfiend]

The thing with Top of the Pops is that they would have 5 or 6 bands/groups/singers on each week, on (I think) just two stages, so while one act was one stage, the previous act was clearing off and then the next act setting up on the other. There simply wasn't time for them to actually set up real equipment so they almost all mimed.

Towards the end of the run they experimented with the vocalist singing over a backing track, but that left in the possibility for "unscripted" moments like Kurt Cobain's... erm... idiosyncratic performance of Smells Like Teen Spirit.

You have to remember that the vast majority of the acts featured on ToTP were teeny-bop chart fodder, and were probably happier to mime than to perform live. And I think there was also the aspect that some bands couldn't necessarily be trusted not to drop F-bombs or (I'm thinking of Shaun Ryder here) even to remember the words.

[paint it black]

The thing with Top of the Pops is that they would have 5 or 6 bands/groups/singers on each week, on (I think) just two stages, so while one act was one stage, the previous act was clearing off and then the next act setting up on the other. There simply wasn't time for them to actually set up real equipment so they almost all mimed.

Towards the end of the run they experimented with the vocalist singing over a backing track, but that left in the possibility for "unscripted" moments like Kurt Cobain's... erm... idiosyncratic performance of Smells Like Teen Spirit.

You have to remember that the vast majority of the acts featured on ToTP were teeny-bop chart fodder, and were probably happier to mime than to perform live. And I think there was also the aspect that some bands couldn't necessarily be trusted not to drop F-bombs or (I'm thinking of Shaun Ryder here) even to remember the words.

also the small matter of the musicians union stopping live backing and enforcing prerecorded tracks.

i read somewhere quite recently that blue monday wasn't bad because of the band's inability to play but because the totps guys didn't know how to deal with live music

anyway, i liked goth bbc... it was a wee bit of fun

[markfiend]

Oh yeah I had forgotten the musician's union aspect.

I loved the bit in Blue Monday when Barney noticeably gets the giggles

Possibly the best TOTP moment is them putting up a picture of darts legend Jocky Wilson as the backdrop for Dexys' "Jackie Wilson Says", apparently a piece of sweet revenge for Kevin Rowland being an absolute see-you-next-Tuesday.

[Pista]

oooh. I remember that.
But one of my faves was The Stranglers breaking a stage & generally taking the p!ss when they did No More Heroes.

[Phil]

Just to add to the general air of what-the-f**k Im sure the artists had the option at least of recording their track downstairs for that recording to be used as the mime-track. I think I read an interview with Roger Taylor from out of that Queen where he questioned the wisdom of it as the time it took to do it was a ball-ache. Or something.