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Ben's been out a while, he was touring with Nathan Grey for the last lot of US Ghost dates.

so are they also featured on the new record? They will be on the live one at least.
Such a kids rockn roll circus, but entertaining

d0gbones wrote:Most of September's out - Ben's touring with PIG.

Plus, Chris touring with Geist from late October to mid-December.

For sure, there's the off-chance that will "really shake things up" and resurrect his olden idea (mid-90's) to perform solely with the Doc.

All the while sounding spacious like The Comsat Angels

That would be wet dream/joke come true. And how much money-saving would it be.

Would the money savng steps be enough to require the opening of the vaults beneath west Leeds that contain the live recordings and nearly complete studio sessions? I doubt it, well not until hell ices over or the idiotic brexit provokes huge cat food inflation above the chemist.

Swinnow wrote:Would the money savng steps be enough to require the opening of the vaults beneath west Leeds that contain the live recordings and nearly complete studio sessions? I doubt it, well not until hell ices over or the idiotic brexit provokes huge cat food inflation above the chemist.

I thought all these things sadly burnt down in Adam's house ... ...

copper wrote:For sure, there's the off-chance that will "really shake things up" and resurrect his olden idea (mid-90's) to perform solely with the Doc.

I'd love that so, so much, but I'm also kind of enjoying having money to spend so if none of them can do anything remotely interesting for a while, that'd be great. Eureka Machines is fine because I needed an excuse to go to York.
(Are we allowed to talk about the spooky mask thing now, or nah? Their names seem to be pretty widely out there now anyway..?)

Bartek wrote:That would be wet dream/joke come true. And how much money-saving would it be.

As you ask... £300 per guitarist per gig is a figure I've heard

markfiend wrote:

Bartek wrote:That would be wet dream/joke come true. And how much money-saving would it be.

As you ask... £300 per guitarist per gig is a figure I've heard

Is it just me to does that seem low?

Well, their appeal is more selective nowadays. OK, not yet at Puppet Show support slot level, but I wouldn't be surprised at such a figure. Make sure you buy the tee shirts kids

Time for TSOM: a Jazz Odyssey?

Ooooh, very none more black

There is also the 'silent disco' option - here the audience wear headphones ans the stage area is smogged to hell with dry ice and backlit big style. Puts the computers to full use and avoids all complications like paying musicians and singing. Win / win

Swinnow wrote:There is also the 'silent disco' option - here the audience wear headphones ans the stage area is smogged to hell with dry ice and backlit big style. Puts the computers to full use and avoids all complications like paying musicians and singing. Win / win

Thwy tried silent gigs in 2006, just skimped on the audience headphones..

czuczu wrote:

Swinnow wrote:There is also the 'silent disco' option - here the audience wear headphones ans the stage area is smogged to hell with dry ice and backlit big style. Puts the computers to full use and avoids all complications like paying musicians and singing. Win / win

Thwy tried silent gigs in 2006, just skimped on the audience headphones..

Wasn't it more 2008/9 they broke the volume knob off the mx desk?

Pista wrote:

czuczu wrote:

Swinnow wrote:There is also the 'silent disco' option - here the audience wear headphones ans the stage area is smogged to hell with dry ice and backlit big style. Puts the computers to full use and avoids all complications like paying musicians and singing. Win / win

Thwy tried silent gigs in 2006, just skimped on the audience headphones..

Wasn't it more 2008/9 they broke the volume knob off the mx desk?

Dunno, I gave up for a while after 2006 - that Astoria show was one of the all time worst things ever. It all got a bit depressing until that Leamington Spa gig raised the bar a little.

Yeah the then Ms Swinnow gave up on Sisters gigs around the same time as "they all got a bit samey", she returned for XXX at Leeds Poly and "the cakes were a nice touch". Guess we'll still ask if she wants to go in 2019.

Pista wrote:

czuczu wrote:

Swinnow wrote:There is also the 'silent disco' option - here the audience wear headphones ans the stage area is smogged to hell with dry ice and backlit big style. Puts the computers to full use and avoids all complications like paying musicians and singing. Win / win

Thwy tried silent gigs in 2006, just skimped on the audience headphones..

Wasn't it more 2008/9 they broke the volume knob off the mx desk?

You had to remind me and set me off again about that didn't you?

markfiend wrote:

Bartek wrote:That would be wet dream/joke come true. And how much money-saving would it be.

As you ask... £300 per guitarist per gig is a figure I've heard

If you're playing, let say, 20 gigs tour that (£300 x 2) x 20 gives nice and round figures. . Not to mention, less money spend on accomodation during tour(s) for such hired hands and possibilty to hire smaller (cheaper?) bus. Plus, you get rid off HR complications (you know, dealing with [blah] people [blah]).

But i'm not insisting that is what's going to happen or what is in his mind. It's just next - logical - step after crossing bass and keyboard players from payroll.

PIG is touring America this fall and Ben was his guitarist for the promo of the album in London.That being said,he might very well be in the line up for the upcoming tour

Ben is confirmed for the upcoming PIG tour, both om his Facebook and the official PIG.

sultan2075 wrote:

markfiend wrote:

Bartek wrote:That would be wet dream/joke come true. And how much money-saving would it be.

As you ask... £300 per guitarist per gig is a figure I've heard

Is it just me to does that seem low?

Depends.

Patsy said she was paid £300 a month in 1988.

That's around £780 today, as opposed a 20-date tour with ~£6.000 income before taxes.

...and i'd do it for me tea and drugs.

I'd still take the gig, if no one minds a transgender woman with a serious effect pedal problem, and fond memories of learning all of Vision Thing in one night with speed involved many moons ago.

I can play Temple Of Love the proper way (and sing it at the same time!), and my version of Ribbons is heavier than yours.

Dream gig; I'd do it for peanuts.

copper wrote:Patsy said she was paid £300 a month in 1988.

I thought band members were on a retainer until the end of 1992?
But by the time Tim was offered the chance to rejoin it was per gig for the tour