Heartland

Guilty on both counts sir.

Swinnow wrote:Now you're getting serious. A red shirt with a liverbird over the heart is one of life's most beautiful things. Always.

personally i want this years goalkeeper top. black with gold liverbird =sexy as f**k.
.my old green 'Candy' away shirt from back in the 90's and my lovely red and black tracky top with the Carlsberg logo are both getting well threadbare.

....& this season just gets better.

This years goalie shirt with the six stars embellishment is rather cool too, plus added goff points lol.

Yggdrasil wrote:It's funny how some fans are like the type of tragic football fans who support a team no matter what, regardless of who the players are, the owners, or the quality of the playing.

Tragic? Oh s**t, I thought those were 'actual' or 'proper' football fans. They're tragic? Wow, always learning.

The sound? Quieter cos Von's voice is quieter. Next convo please, before these two liver birds above begin an inexorable chain reaction of ever more giddy foaming which is looking likely to hit orgasmic highs sometime in May. And will mean all the more because they're tragic football fans.

come get a hug off a bin-dipper!
sing a long!

Planet Dave wrote: Tragic? Oh s**t, I thought those were 'actual' or 'proper' football fans. They're tragic? Wow, always learning.

Rooting for something regardless of its contents, results or people involved is just blind, empty brand loyalty – tragic in my eyes.

So basically your analogy is saying that a "real fan" would love the Sisters even with all the members changed out for a bunch of pro West Coast studio musicians playing drum-machine based reggaeton to cruise ship pensioners in Florida, as long as it was called SoM? Or still drink Guiness even if it tasted like Miller Lite and was owned by Donald Trump? Really? Why? Because you put the logotype/brand name over everything else?

Planet Dave wrote: The sound? Quieter cos Von's voice is quieter.

So you're saying it's an insurmountable technical problem, case closed? What brings you to that conclusion?

Haha, that would be hilarious. Beer by Trump. Slogo, beer that makes you hump like a T(C)hump

Yggdrasil wrote:

Planet Dave wrote: Tragic? Oh s**t, I thought those were 'actual' or 'proper' football fans. They're tragic? Wow, always learning.

Rooting for something regardless of its contents, results or people involved is just blind, empty brand loyalty – tragic in my eyes.

So basically your analogy is saying that a "real fan" would love the Sisters even with all the members changed out for a bunch of pro West Coast studio musicians playing drum-machine based reggaeton to cruise ship pensioners in Florida, as long as it was called SoM? Or still drink Guiness even if it tasted like Miller Lite and was owned by Donald Trump? Really? Why? Because you put the logotype/brand name over everything else?

Planet Dave wrote: The sound? Quieter cos Von's voice is quieter.

So you're saying it's an insurmountable technical problem, case closed? What brings you to that conclusion?

'So basically what you're saying is' .....hmm where've I heard that before. I'll be honest, I stopped reading after that first sentence, soz.

I'm tempted to lock this thread. I will do if it gets any more confrontational.

markfiend wrote:I'm tempted to lock this thread. I will do if it gets any more confrontational.

Maybe that´s a problem of it too, today everything´s oughta to be too confrontational. Politics yes, correctness yes, but political correctness?

I think the point that myself and a few others were making isn't about whether A was better than B but that these arguments have been many times before and they always get very as Mark says ahem heated.

The problem, everything is instantly taken or given personally without a grain of irony. I mean the question is old but there were still some good objective answers. Why not leave it like that?

Simply: because there will be always at least folks thinking opposite and not giving up, takin things serious.

We got here at least one person who seems to think that whatever TSOM/AE do is the best and (almost) always good, at few other not sharing this view.

Anyhow, anywho, anyway, popcorn?

Even the complaints that the Sisters aren't as good as they used to be aren't as good as they used to be.

markfiend wrote:Even the complaints that the Sisters aren't as good as they used to be aren't as good as they used to be.

Post of the Year!

markfiend wrote:Even the complaints that the Sisters aren't as good as they used to be aren't as good as they used to be.

Since Jam~es has left building, indeed.

markfiend wrote:Even the complaints that the Sisters aren't as good as they used to be aren't as good as they used to be.

markfiend wrote:Even the complaints that the Sisters aren't as good as they used to be aren't as good as they used to be.

and a valid point that needs addressing. I mean, to be honest The Sisters went s**t the minute Von hung his drumsticks up, and have miserably and continuously failed to deliver anything close to the hinted-at majesty of Damage Done and his drumming ever since.

They were done after Kill 'em all

Bartek wrote:They were done after Kill 'em all

Before! I recently watched some of their 30th birthday shows on YT and was surprised to learn there's some other guy they nearly gave the vocals to when they were starting out. Can't remember his name but he was amazing. Hetfield's delivery in those early years was perfect-for-purpose but this bloke's woulda been better.

eastmidswhizzkid wrote:come get a hug off a bin-dipper!
sing a long!

I've just noticed this

What can I say? Thank you kind Sir, though I must respectfully decline

(it's okay to be able to see beyond the tribalistic banter enough to acknowledge a hard earned and well deserved achievement when one sees one, but f**k hugging the twats )

markfiend wrote:Even the complaints that the Sisters aren't as good as they used to be aren't as good as they used to be.

Well done sir

Give that man(c) a doughnut

markfiend wrote:I'm tempted to lock this thread. I will do if it gets any more confrontational.

It would be nice to discuss the question I actually raised instead – what's the reason for the current weak SoM live sound? – without loyalists getting all worked up by a fellow fan simply bringing it up.

I see it as a big problem, and most other SoM fans I know feel the same way.

Surely the question has merit enough to at least be discussed without aggression?

I'll try again, and rephrase:

– What could be the reason for the current weak SoM live sound? Other bands sound way better in similar or the same venues. AE:s voice can hardly be a reason technically.

Anyone has any clues?

Yggdrasil wrote:It would be nice to discuss the question I actually raised – what's the reason for the current weak SoM live sound?

Yeah I agree, that's what I was trying to say.

Completely unrelated: the red ink is kind of a board shorthand for "moderator voice" not just for emphasis. I don't know if we ever made it "official" though. Never mind

Yggdrasil wrote:. AE:s voice can hardly be a reason technically.

Yes it can. Von's voice has been a sort of "signature" for The Sisters. The music arrangements have changed yes, but his voice & vocal style has always been a constant really.
Personally (with the exception of the false start in Budapest a couple of years back) I've not had any issues with volume at a show I went to .
But the simple fact of the matter is Von simply cannot (or will not) sing as he once did.
His mic is seemingly being policed by the board so he can be heard over the rest of the arrangements.
It's cranked up. You can tell because he insists on wandering over to stage right & stage left where the stacks are at which point you get mahoosive amounts of feedback.
The other thing here is that a lot of the vocal duties are coming from Ben & Dylan.
So yes. It can be a technical reason.
That being said, I still love them & don't recall ever being left disappointed