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Re: "Black Album" bootleg - Eldritch/Pearson demos

Posted: 24 Sep 2021, 13:19
by markfiend
If we're talking about the same thing as @Dan's upload in the old thread I don't think it's the Sisters.

It's all just midi files - I don't think there's a live musician on there at all.

Re: "Black Album" bootleg - Eldritch/Pearson demos

Posted: 25 Sep 2021, 00:57
by Dan
markfiend wrote: 24 Sep 2021, 13:19 If we're talking about the same thing as @Dan's upload in the old thread I don't think it's the Sisters.

It's all just midi files - I don't think there's a live musician on there at all.
Ah! I'd forgotten all about that. And the link still works. Oh well, that's peoples curiosity sated anyway. Hopefully nobody shelled out any money on the records!

Re: "Black Album" bootleg - Eldritch/Pearson demos

Posted: 25 Sep 2021, 08:25
by LyanvisAberrant
markfiend wrote: 24 Sep 2021, 13:19 If we're talking about the same thing as @Dan's upload in the old thread I don't think it's the Sisters.

It's all just midi files - I don't think there's a live musician on there at all.
Aside from the obvious electric guitar overdubs.
Why does that rule it out?

Re: "Black Album" bootleg - Eldritch/Pearson demos

Posted: 25 Sep 2021, 09:21
by Being645
I guess, these are mere old Doktor demos giving orientation for band members to what dynamics the sound should have live.

Re: "Black Album" bootleg - Eldritch/Pearson demos

Posted: 25 Sep 2021, 09:29
by czuczu
Being645 wrote: 25 Sep 2021, 09:21 I guess, these are mere old Doktor demos giving orientation for band members to what dynamics the sound should have live.
Well, they should sound like the Doktor then ;)
They don't. They sound like out of the box samples.

And they don't sound like the live tracks. They're cluttered, messy with no space for guitar parts. If they were written by a guitarist there would be tons of space to fill + it's actually easier for a guitarist to play the parts than programme them.
Even the dates don't make sense, why would tracks written after the songs public debut not sound like the song?

Re: "Black Album" bootleg - Eldritch/Pearson demos

Posted: 25 Sep 2021, 09:31
by czuczu
Even Ben has said he wasn't given tapes to learn and had to find boots. That could just be trust issues ;)

Re: "Black Album" bootleg - Eldritch/Pearson demos

Posted: 25 Sep 2021, 09:38
by Being645
czuczu wrote: 25 Sep 2021, 09:29
Being645 wrote: 25 Sep 2021, 09:21 I guess, these are mere old Doktor demos giving orientation for band members to what dynamics the sound should have live.
Well, they should sound like the Doktor then ;)
They don't. They sound like out of the box samples.

And they don't sound like the live tracks. They're cluttered, messy with no space for guitar parts. If they were written by a guitarist there would be tons of space to fill + it's actually easier for a guitarist to play the parts than programme them.
Even the dates don't make sense, why would tracks written after the songs public debut not sound like the song?
True. I stand corrected ... :) ...

Re: "Black Album" bootleg - Eldritch/Pearson demos

Posted: 25 Sep 2021, 09:51
by czuczu
Being645 wrote: 25 Sep 2021, 09:38
czuczu wrote: 25 Sep 2021, 09:29
Being645 wrote: 25 Sep 2021, 09:21 I guess, these are mere old Doktor demos giving orientation for band members to what dynamics the sound should have live.
Well, they should sound like the Doktor then ;)
They don't. They sound like out of the box samples.

And they don't sound like the live tracks. They're cluttered, messy with no space for guitar parts. If they were written by a guitarist there would be tons of space to fill + it's actually easier for a guitarist to play the parts than programme them.
Even the dates don't make sense, why would tracks written after the songs public debut not sound like the song?
True. I stand corrected ... :) ...
:lol:
Don't take my word for it!
I think the onus is on proving they're real but I'm just not feeling it.

Re: "Black Album" bootleg - Eldritch/Pearson demos

Posted: 25 Sep 2021, 11:06
by mh
Yeah, Top Nite Out is the only one that's actually any good, but none of the rest even sound like the songs as we know them, although Crash & Burn could make a case for being a (very distant) second best.

These will turn out to have been someone noodling in their bedroom with a PC, nothing more.

Re: "Black Album" bootleg - Eldritch/Pearson demos

Posted: 27 Sep 2021, 09:25
by markfiend
LyanvisAberrant wrote: 25 Sep 2021, 08:25
markfiend wrote: 24 Sep 2021, 13:19 If we're talking about the same thing as @Dan's upload in the old thread I don't think it's the Sisters.

It's all just midi files - I don't think there's a live musician on there at all.
Aside from the obvious electric guitar overdubs.
Why does that rule it out?
"Obvious" guitar overdubs? Not that obvious 'cos I couldn't hear them.

Re: "Black Album" bootleg - Eldritch/Pearson demos

Posted: 27 Sep 2021, 18:02
by DasPerltAber
mh wrote: 25 Sep 2021, 11:06 Yeah, Top Nite Out is the only one that's actually any good, but none of the rest even sound like the songs as we know them, although Crash & Burn could make a case for being a (very distant) second best.

These will turn out to have been someone noodling in their bedroom with a PC, nothing more.
The "guitar" overdubs are nothing but a synth with some buzzsaw distortion added. The chorus in Summer is wrong. The "Doktor" sounds pretty damn cheap and crappy. I hadn't listened to it for years but I am still not convinced this is the real deal after listening to this again. Bare in mind I only made it to song number 3 though.

Re: "Black Album" bootleg - Eldritch/Pearson demos

Posted: 27 Sep 2021, 19:55
by Pista
Let's not forget that this is a release from the same clowns that did this in their mum's basement

Re: "Black Album" bootleg - Eldritch/Pearson demos

Posted: 03 Oct 2021, 22:36
by eastmidswhizzkid
oh come on folks! these are as obviously fake as wide reciever was obviously andrew. :roll: maybe a stint in the FB pond or dominion would help... :twisted:
EDIT for the record top nite out would still have been called snubnose

Re: "Black Album" bootleg - Eldritch/Pearson demos

Posted: 07 Oct 2021, 11:17
by robertzombie
It would be good to hear them.

EDIT: Dan's link still works: https://www.mediafire.com/?1y7xicry6ona1ex

Re: "Black Album" bootleg - Eldritch/Pearson demos

Posted: 07 Oct 2021, 11:22
by czuczu
robertzombie wrote: 07 Oct 2021, 11:17 It would be good to hear them.
More like unpleasant to hear them ;)

Re: "Black Album" bootleg - Eldritch/Pearson demos

Posted: 07 Oct 2021, 11:26
by robertzombie
czuczu wrote: 07 Oct 2021, 11:22
robertzombie wrote: 07 Oct 2021, 11:17 It would be good to hear them.
More like unpleasant to hear them ;)
Having now heard them I'm in agreement!

Re: "Black Album" bootleg - Eldritch/Pearson demos

Posted: 07 Oct 2021, 18:11
by paint it black
eastmidswhizzkid wrote: 03 Oct 2021, 22:36 oh come on folks! these are as obviously fake as wide reciever was obviously andrew. :roll: maybe a stint in the FB pond or dominion would help... :twisted:
EDIT for the record top nite out would still have been called snubnose
For the record :innocent:


Re: "Black Album" bootleg - Eldritch/Pearson demos

Posted: 09 Oct 2021, 02:40
by eastmidswhizzkid
paint it black wrote: 07 Oct 2021, 18:11
eastmidswhizzkid wrote: 03 Oct 2021, 22:36 oh come on folks! these are as obviously fake as wide reciever was obviously andrew. :roll: maybe a stint in the FB pond or dominion would help... :twisted:
EDIT for the record top nite out would still have been called snubnose
For the record :innocent:

nope- youve got me there ez! please explain :? :?:

Re: "Black Album" bootleg - Eldritch/Pearson demos

Posted: 09 Oct 2021, 09:54
by Pista
Some Herbert corrected the description. Can't think who that could have been :innocent:
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Re: "Black Album" bootleg - Eldritch/Pearson demos

Posted: 09 Oct 2021, 14:44
by paint it black
eastmidswhizzkid wrote: 09 Oct 2021, 02:40
paint it black wrote: 07 Oct 2021, 18:11
eastmidswhizzkid wrote: 03 Oct 2021, 22:36 oh come on folks! these are as obviously fake as wide reciever was obviously andrew. :roll: maybe a stint in the FB pond or dominion would help... :twisted:
EDIT for the record top nite out would still have been called snubnose
For the record :innocent:

nope- youve got me there ez! please explain :? :?:
Listen to the guitars near the end = snubnose

Re: "Black Album" bootleg - Eldritch/Pearson demos

Posted: 09 Oct 2021, 19:01
by eastmidswhizzkid
paint it black wrote: 09 Oct 2021, 14:44
eastmidswhizzkid wrote: 09 Oct 2021, 02:40
paint it black wrote: 07 Oct 2021, 18:11

For the record :innocent:

nope- youve got me there ez! please explain :? :?:
Listen to the guitars near the end = snubnose
ah yes- thanks Ez. the similiarity is even more noticeable if you jigger the bpm up to match. not an out-and-out steal, like say, when you dont see me/ rainbow in the dark , but not dissimilar.