Heartland

Posted: **18 Apr 2022, 02:43**

Todashi wrote: ↑16 Apr 2022, 12:46 Also, just occured to me that if we're indulging in the fantasy of them recording these tracks, there's no reason why Crash & Burn and Summer couldn't find their way in there too.

I wish they'd bring back "Romeo Down" and "War on Drugs", just on occasions

But on the subject: the proportion of new songs is *more* than it ever was in the Pearson era, isn't it?

Posted: **18 Apr 2022, 10:30**

No new album would seem complete without We are the Same, Suzanne.

Posted: **19 Apr 2022, 09:57**

Hello - first post here having been reading with interest for years (and scraping MP3s from YouTube for the last few!).

Great thread and agree with the above. The "new album" I've curated (thanks Mr. Blonde!) is as follows:

1. Crash and Burn (too good not to be included, and a banger of an opener. Would definitely add female BVs to the chorus)
2. Don't Drive on Ice
3. I will Call You (concluding an opening sequence of three rockier numbers)
4. Show Me (this would get the Jim Steinman-esque treatment, and have female BVs - A.A. Williams maybe?)
5. Six Ways to Sunday (sitting in the same relative position as 1959 and Something Fast)

6. When I'm on Fire (also a big production needed here with BVs - and a corker to open Side 2 if on vinyl)
7. But Genevieve (possible instrumental segue into the next track)
8. We Are The Same Suzanne
9. Here (another epic production needed - this is already a classic in my view)
10. Black Sail (with extended Ben outro solo, and female BVs)

This has a running time of 38 minutes as things stand, but there's certainly room to lengthen a couple of the tracks. Could we argue a case to include Arms (complete with More-like thrash cello) or Still? Quite possibly.

I've left out Better Reptile as it didn't feel properly finished. Ditto Kickline (obviously still arguing about the words). And Instrumental 86 is just the musical accompaniment to a well earned cigarette break after all...

Posted: **19 Apr 2022, 10:42**

Hello @DJW & welcome to

Posted: **19 Apr 2022, 11:45**

Looking forward to the bonus live disc of 93-09 unreleased originals that's gonna be in the expensive deluxe box set for this opus

Posted: **19 Apr 2022, 12:18**

DJW wrote: ↑19 Apr 2022, 09:57 Hello - first post here having been reading with interest for years (and scraping MP3s from YouTube for the last few!).

Great thread and agree with the above. The "new album" I've curated (thanks Mr. Blonde!) is as follows:

1. Crash and Burn (too good not to be included, and a banger of an opener. Would definitely add female BVs to the chorus)
2. Don't Drive on Ice
3. I will Call You (concluding an opening sequence of three rockier numbers)
4. Show Me (this would get the Jim Steinman-esque treatment, and have female BVs - A.A. Williams maybe?)
5. Six Ways to Sunday (sitting in the same relative position as 1959 and Something Fast)

6. When I'm on Fire (also a big production needed here with BVs - and a corker to open Side 2 if on vinyl)
7. But Genevieve (possible instrumental segue into the next track)
8. We Are The Same Suzanne
9. Here (another epic production needed - this is already a classic in my view)
10. Black Sail (with extended Ben outro solo, and female BVs)

This has a running time of 38 minutes as things stand, but there's certainly room to lengthen a couple of the tracks. Could we argue a case to include Arms (complete with More-like thrash cello) or Still? Quite possibly.

I've left out Better Reptile as it didn't feel properly finished. Ditto Kickline (obviously still arguing about the words). And Instrumental 86 is just the musical accompaniment to a well earned cigarette break after all...

I’d totally buy that! Sod it, I’d buy it twice!

Posted: **19 Apr 2022, 15:20**

If it's fantasy wishlist time a bandcamp release of the sixty odd (ok, trim it to twenty) unreleased tracks recorded in a studio, perhaps live. "We Are Here', 1993-23, pay what you want... if it sells a truck load then press up some vinly or whatever format.
Whether

likes it or not he is currently releasing music, just in the crappiest youtube format. If anything Youtube is his record company, there's still profit getting extracted from his creative endeavours, redirecting the flow into his own pocket and the band's is surely preferable. A legacy of distorted 128kbp mp3's is surely not what these songs deserve.

Posted: **19 Apr 2022, 20:29**

Dr. Moody wrote: ↑19 Apr 2022, 15:20 If it's fantasy wishlist time a bandcamp release of the sixty odd (ok, trim it to twenty) unreleased tracks recorded in a studio, perhaps live. "We Are Here', 1993-23, pay what you want... if it sells a truck load then press up some vinly or whatever format.
Whether likes it or not he is currently releasing music, just in the crappiest youtube format. If anything Youtube is his record company, there's still profit getting extracted from his creative endeavours, redirecting the flow into his own pocket and the band's is surely preferable. A legacy of distorted 128kbp mp3's is surely not what these songs deserve.

*Bangs knife and fork on the table* Me too.

Posted: **20 Apr 2022, 10:12**

Dr. Moody wrote: ↑19 Apr 2022, 15:20 A legacy of distorted 128kbp mp3's is surely not what these songs deserve.

It's worth saying, and worth repeating.

Posted: **20 Apr 2022, 11:40**

To play devils advocate for a sec, haven't we been here before? Take the Leeds gig on 27 April 2003 - I count 9 unreleased songs (including Top Nite Out) in the set of 21. It's basically "peak Pearson". I wasn't frequenting this forum at that point, but surely the feeling must have been similar euphoria and expectation?

Posted: **20 Apr 2022, 14:04**

Since AE repeated this few times officially on the press, they do not need to burn money on recording and releasing new album, i'm enjoying the fact they are still producing new songs, are pushed back the haze of old band doing old act over and over again, just giving people the most well-known songs to sing along and are still productive and creative, and even making some changes in stylisty during the tour.

Posted: **20 Apr 2022, 22:04**

markfiend wrote: ↑20 Apr 2022, 10:12
Dr. Moody wrote: ↑19 Apr 2022, 15:20 A legacy of distorted 128kbp mp3's is surely not what these songs deserve.
It's worth saying, and worth repeating.

Agreed! Best record I've never heard

edit : nor am I expecting to hear it any time soon / ever (whichever comes first), nor will I be mard if i don't. As you say Bartek, merely being this productive, with the obvious and inherent quality within that productivity being as it is, is rather marvellous. Worth the wait, dear Europe, I'm sure

Posted: **24 Apr 2022, 12:46**

And another couple of tracks. There is a door. The eyes of a Caligula.

We're rapidly approaching the point where it's going to be quicker to list the new songs from the main site that they haven't played, rather than those they have.

This feels really really strange. I'm so used to being underwhelmed by the Sisters' productivity that I don't really know how I feel about a situation where so many new songs are being played I'm having trouble keeping up. And that's not something a Sisters fan normally has to worry about.

Posted: **24 Apr 2022, 20:21**

I fully respect, agree and understand that Von does not owe anyone anything. He does not owe us a new album, he can do whatever he wants.
But I will never understand how he doesn’t seem to want to hear these new great songs realized in the best possible way, in clear, well produced studio recordings, with every musical nuance used to the greatest effect. I’m not even talking about pleasing fans, or earning/losing money. I’m simply talking about him satisfying his own artistic and creative aspirations. Because these new songs clearly tells me he still has them.
”I consider the recorded song to be the norm.” / Andrew Eldritch, being interviewed in some issue of UTR, way back when.

Posted: **24 Apr 2022, 23:13**

In contrast: I was watching the Ulm gig in its entirety and marvelling at how great the new songs sound live, and I got to thinking: a studio version would only sound worse, precisely because you could hear all the "nuances" too plainly - eg. the Doktor's 90s retro sounds and Von's sub-Lemmy growl, without the "vibe" of the live experience. Add to that that, unless he's a changed man over the last 30 years, Von would insist on spending a decade tinkering with the production decisions. Hell, maybe he already has been doing that.

King Crimson didn't release a studio album for the last 18 years of their existence, but gave the broad masses access to "the new stuff" on a plethora of live releases. Modern tech means there's no reason for a live record to sound worse than a studio record. IMHO that would be a better way for the girls to go.

Posted: **25 Apr 2022, 10:50**

Random thought of a Monday morning - I downloaded @MrBlonde 's compilation of the new tracks from the sharing section, added it to Apple Music and played it. Sounds great. But then a rip of the video for 'We Are the Same Suzanne' came on, and it just sounds magnificent.

That's effectively the last 'release' from the Sisters, back in 2001 I think?, and yet it still sounds fresh and vibrant. It would be amazing to have even that quality for the new tracks. Live/semi-live/live but produced audio. Come on.

Posted: **09 Dec 2022, 18:55**

Todashi wrote: ↑25 Apr 2022, 10:50 Random thought of a Monday morning - I downloaded @MrBlonde 's compilation of the new tracks from the sharing section, added it to Apple Music and played it. Sounds great. But then a rip of the video for 'We Are the Same Suzanne' came on, and it just sounds magnificent.

That's effectively the last 'release' from the Sisters, back in 2001 I think?, and yet it still sounds fresh and vibrant. It would be amazing to have even that quality for the new tracks. Live/semi-live/live but produced audio. Come on.

Suzanne is such a great sounding song. I was at a record store in October and they had the Lucretia single play testing behind the counter, a Sister's conversation inevitably started with the clerk and I asked him if he had ever heard "We Are the Same Suzanne." He was dumbfounded when I lead him to the MP3 on the official site. He had been a fan since the 80's, seen them in '91 and on the last US tour, dude was blown away and that song is already 20+ years old.

Posted: **14 Dec 2022, 12:38**

satanarchist wrote: ↑09 Dec 2022, 18:55
Todashi wrote: ↑25 Apr 2022, 10:50 Random thought of a Monday morning - I downloaded @MrBlonde 's compilation of the new tracks from the sharing section, added it to Apple Music and played it. Sounds great. But then a rip of the video for 'We Are the Same Suzanne' came on, and it just sounds magnificent.

That's effectively the last 'release' from the Sisters, back in 2001 I think?, and yet it still sounds fresh and vibrant. It would be amazing to have even that quality for the new tracks. Live/semi-live/live but produced audio. Come on.
Suzanne is such a great sounding song. I was at a record store in October and they had the Lucretia single play testing behind the counter, a Sister's conversation inevitably started with the clerk and I asked him if he had ever heard "We Are the Same Suzanne." He was dumbfounded when I lead him to the MP3 on the official site. He had been a fan since the 80's, seen them in '91 and on the last US tour, dude was blown away and that song is already 20+ years old.

Which MP3 on the official site?

Posted: **14 Dec 2022, 13:07**

FinnMacCool wrote: ↑14 Dec 2022, 12:38

Which MP3 on the official site?

That's long since been removed

Posted: **14 Dec 2022, 13:44**

Pista wrote: ↑14 Dec 2022, 13:07 That's long since been removed

The video is removed, but the mp3 links here are still available.

Posted: **14 Dec 2022, 18:35**

FinnMacCool wrote: ↑14 Dec 2022, 12:38
satanarchist wrote: ↑09 Dec 2022, 18:55
Todashi wrote: ↑25 Apr 2022, 10:50 Random thought of a Monday morning - I downloaded @MrBlonde 's compilation of the new tracks from the sharing section, added it to Apple Music and played it. Sounds great. But then a rip of the video for 'We Are the Same Suzanne' came on, and it just sounds magnificent.

That's effectively the last 'release' from the Sisters, back in 2001 I think?, and yet it still sounds fresh and vibrant. It would be amazing to have even that quality for the new tracks. Live/semi-live/live but produced audio. Come on.
Suzanne is such a great sounding song. I was at a record store in October and they had the Lucretia single play testing behind the counter, a Sister's conversation inevitably started with the clerk and I asked him if he had ever heard "We Are the Same Suzanne." He was dumbfounded when I lead him to the MP3 on the official site. He had been a fan since the 80's, seen them in '91 and on the last US tour, dude was blown away and that song is already 20+ years old.
Which MP3 on the official site?

https://www.thesistersofmercy.com/showc ... index1.htm

Posted: **14 Dec 2022, 18:36**

alanm wrote: ↑14 Dec 2022, 13:44
Pista wrote: ↑14 Dec 2022, 13:07 That's long since been removed
The video is removed, but the mp3 links here are still available.

Oh damn, beat me to it.

Posted: **18 Dec 2022, 21:27**

satanarchist wrote: ↑14 Dec 2022, 18:35
FinnMacCool wrote: ↑14 Dec 2022, 12:38
satanarchist wrote: ↑09 Dec 2022, 18:55

Suzanne is such a great sounding song. I was at a record store in October and they had the Lucretia single play testing behind the counter, a Sister's conversation inevitably started with the clerk and I asked him if he had ever heard "We Are the Same Suzanne." He was dumbfounded when I lead him to the MP3 on the official site. He had been a fan since the 80's, seen them in '91 and on the last US tour, dude was blown away and that song is already 20+ years old.
Which MP3 on the official site?
https://www.thesistersofmercy.com/showc ... index1.htm

Amazing that the link is still "live"

Posted: **19 Dec 2022, 16:52**

satanarchist wrote: ↑14 Dec 2022, 18:36
alanm wrote: ↑14 Dec 2022, 13:44
Pista wrote: ↑14 Dec 2022, 13:07 That's long since been removed
The video is removed, but the mp3 links here are still available.
Oh damn, beat me to it.

Thanks very much gents, that was new to me

Posted: **19 Dec 2022, 16:53**

Bill Hicks wrote: ↑18 Dec 2022, 21:27
satanarchist wrote: ↑14 Dec 2022, 18:35
FinnMacCool wrote: ↑14 Dec 2022, 12:38

Which MP3 on the official site?
https://www.thesistersofmercy.com/showc ... index1.htm
Amazing that the link is still "live"

I know! A whole 8mb - so huge! He might have to take them offline to get his email

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