Re: 2023-10-08. E-Werk, Köln DE
Posted: 08 Oct 2023, 20:29
Gig cancelled. Von's ill
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Re: 2023-10-08. E-Werk, Köln DE
Posted: 08 Oct 2023, 20:32
For context: VirginMarys played their regular set. Announcement on stage came very late, citing illness on AE‘s side
Re: 2023-10-08. E-Werk, Köln DE
Posted: 08 Oct 2023, 20:43
So sorry
What Happens ?
All are ready and now cancelt
🥲
What Happens ?
All are ready and now cancelt
🥲Re: 2023-10-08. E-Werk, Köln DE
Posted: 08 Oct 2023, 20:52
Sorry, but you can‘t handle it this way. I can‘t imagine he felt ill only 5 minutes before he had to come on stage.
Re: 2023-10-08. E-Werk, Köln DE
Posted: 08 Oct 2023, 21:22
Re: 2023-10-08. E-Werk, Köln DE
Posted: 08 Oct 2023, 21:25
Well, I do hope he recovers from whatever ails him.
Re: 2023-10-08. E-Werk, Köln DE
Posted: 08 Oct 2023, 22:02
Re: 2023-10-08. E-Werk, Köln DE
Posted: 08 Oct 2023, 22:19
May he get well soon.
Re: 2023-10-08. E-Werk, Köln DE
Posted: 08 Oct 2023, 22:21
Re: 2023-10-08. E-Werk, Köln DE
Posted: 08 Oct 2023, 22:22
Bad news, can imagine and understand the frustration amongst the frustrated folk at the gig, 100%, but first and foremost, get well soon 
Re: 2023-10-08. E-Werk, Köln DE
Posted: 08 Oct 2023, 22:25
No disagreement here, of course I wish him all the best. But how everything was handled today was extremely unprofessional.
Re: 2023-10-08. E-Werk, Köln DE
Posted: 08 Oct 2023, 22:35
Absolutely agree Dave. Had I been in the audience I would have been gutted. But Andrew's health is way more important. I really hope it's nothing seriousPlanet Dave wrote: ↑08 Oct 2023, 22:22 Bad news, can imagine and understand the frustration amongst the frustrated folk at the gig, 100%, but first and foremost, get well soon
Re: 2023-10-08. E-Werk, Köln DE
Posted: 09 Oct 2023, 03:30
I wouldn't say so. But I'm in a different position. For me it was the first and one and only gig I could attend this year. And it was so pleasing to get into the venue, to meet and talk with all of you I know eventually once again, to see all the lovely unknown people in the audience, to watch The Virginmarys do their opening slot, to listen to the long and ever longer intro, which offered varieties of sounds I'd never heard before at a Sisters gig ... and then the speaker appeared to tell us that Andrew indeed is too unwell to do the show... hell, I hope he gets well soon and sound and the band fall on their feet again. For me it was a lovely evening I definitely can't complain about, even under these worrying circumstances, and I send all my best wishes to Andrew and The Sisters.
Re: 2023-10-08. E-Werk, Köln DE
Posted: 09 Oct 2023, 05:55
no doubt the gig being cancelled was a gutter for a lot of you but come on now- the man has hardly ever cancelled gigs due to his own health. he has gone on stage with broken ribs and near pneumonia in the past so give him a break hes almost 65 ffs! when the water tank burst and brought the roof in at rock city it wass almost cancelled permanently6 on the strength of how awfully violent the crowd had been a couple of days before! at least you know this will 99.9% be rescheduled.
Re: 2023-10-08. E-Werk, Köln DE
Posted: 09 Oct 2023, 06:09
Again, I don‘ t complain about the fact THAT it was cancelled. Everybody has the right to be too ill to work. It‘s how it has been handled which in my opinion was not ok.eastmidswhizzkid wrote: ↑09 Oct 2023, 05:55 no doubt the gig being cancelled was a gutter for a lot of you but come on now- the man has hardly ever cancelled gigs due to his own health. he has gone on stage with broken ribs and near pneumonia in the past so give him a break hes almost 65 ffs! when the water tank burst and brought the roof in at rock city it wass almost cancelled permanently6 on the strength of how awfully violent the crowd had been a couple of days before! at least you know this will 99.9% be rescheduled.
Re: 2023-10-08. E-Werk, Köln DE
Posted: 09 Oct 2023, 07:45
Sorry, with all respect to your enduring and steady support for AE and what he‘s doing. That he‘s got a health issue was clear since Berlin, and you can‘t tell me that they only knew at 9 pm that he couldn‘t perform. Cancel it beforehand so everybody can stay home and we get a replacement date later. But like this, also considering people spent money on travel, drinks and merch? Sorry, no. Hope Andrew takes his time for recovery (no more fruitless attempts in the next few days pls) and gets really well.Being645 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2023, 03:30I wouldn't say so. But I'm in a different position. For me it was the first and one and only gig I could attend this year. And it was so pleasing to get into the venue, to meet and talk with all of you I know eventually once again, to see all the lovely unknown people in the audience, to watch The Virginmarys do their opening slot, to listen to the long and ever longer intro, which offered varieties of sounds I'd never heard before at a Sisters gig ... and then the speaker appeared to tell us that Andrew indeed is too unwell to do the show... hell, I hope he gets well soon and sound and the band fall on their feet again. For me it was a lovely evening I definitely can't complain about, even under these worrying circumstances, and I send all my best wishes to Andrew and The Sisters.
Re: 2023-10-08. E-Werk, Köln DE
Posted: 09 Oct 2023, 08:35
That's being very uncharitable. Think for a minute about what you just said.Cedarjet wrote: ↑09 Oct 2023, 07:45Sorry, with all respect to your enduring and steady support for AE and what he‘s doing. That he‘s got a health issue was clear since Berlin, and you can‘t tell me that they only knew at 9 pm that he couldn‘t perform. Cancel it beforehand so everybody can stay home and we get a replacement date later. But like this, also considering people spent money on travel, drinks and merch? Sorry, no. Hope Andrew takes his time for recovery (no more fruitless attempts in the next few days pls) and gets really well.Being645 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2023, 03:30I wouldn't say so. But I'm in a different position. For me it was the first and one and only gig I could attend this year. And it was so pleasing to get into the venue, to meet and talk with all of you I know eventually once again, to see all the lovely unknown people in the audience, to watch The Virginmarys do their opening slot, to listen to the long and ever longer intro, which offered varieties of sounds I'd never heard before at a Sisters gig ... and then the speaker appeared to tell us that Andrew indeed is too unwell to do the show... hell, I hope he gets well soon and sound and the band fall on their feet again. For me it was a lovely evening I definitely can't complain about, even under these worrying circumstances, and I send all my best wishes to Andrew and The Sisters.
We don't know what kind of health issue he has. He may have had a sudden heart attack for all we know. There's no cause to give him or the band jipp over this. As Lee has pointed out, if Von can play on he will, and that should be enough to tell you that it was both serious and sudden.
Right now the most important thing is Von's health. It's understandable being frustrated at cancelled gigs, but it's not OK to take such a negative reading of the cause or the way it was done. This band isn't Morrissey, Guns & Roses or the Nephs, so be sure that they don't arbitrarily cancel at the last moment without having good reason.
Re: 2023-10-08. E-Werk, Köln DE
Posted: 09 Oct 2023, 09:00
If it‘s THAT serious you can be sure I will be the first one to retract and apologize. As I said earlier I just hope he doesn’t just try again and again without success but instead tries recover in a decent way. Even of this means to cancel dates or the entire tour. But in advance with decent communication.mh wrote: ↑09 Oct 2023, 08:35That's being very uncharitable. Think for a minute about what you just said.Cedarjet wrote: ↑09 Oct 2023, 07:45Sorry, with all respect to your enduring and steady support for AE and what he‘s doing. That he‘s got a health issue was clear since Berlin, and you can‘t tell me that they only knew at 9 pm that he couldn‘t perform. Cancel it beforehand so everybody can stay home and we get a replacement date later. But like this, also considering people spent money on travel, drinks and merch? Sorry, no. Hope Andrew takes his time for recovery (no more fruitless attempts in the next few days pls) and gets really well.Being645 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2023, 03:30
I wouldn't say so. But I'm in a different position. For me it was the first and one and only gig I could attend this year. And it was so pleasing to get into the venue, to meet and talk with all of you I know eventually once again, to see all the lovely unknown people in the audience, to watch The Virginmarys do their opening slot, to listen to the long and ever longer intro, which offered varieties of sounds I'd never heard before at a Sisters gig ... and then the speaker appeared to tell us that Andrew indeed is too unwell to do the show... hell, I hope he gets well soon and sound and the band fall on their feet again. For me it was a lovely evening I definitely can't complain about, even under these worrying circumstances, and I send all my best wishes to Andrew and The Sisters.
We don't know what kind of health issue he has. He may have had a sudden heart attack for all we know. There's no cause to give him or the band jipp over this. As Lee has pointed out, if Von can play on he will, and that should be enough to tell you that it was both serious and sudden.
Right now the most important thing is Von's health. It's understandable being frustrated at cancelled gigs, but it's not OK to take such a negative reading of the cause or the way it was done. This band isn't Morrissey, Guns & Roses or the Nephs, so be sure that they don't arbitrarily cancel at the last moment without having good reason.
Re: 2023-10-08. E-Werk, Köln DE
Posted: 09 Oct 2023, 09:00
sorry it was cancelled but indeed my best wishes go out to Von hope you get better soon.
it's crazy how many people are sick at the moment with covid doing it's rounds again and also the flu which hit me for a ball of s**t last week.
so Von take care of yourself and get as much rest possible!
it's crazy how many people are sick at the moment with covid doing it's rounds again and also the flu which hit me for a ball of s**t last week.
so Von take care of yourself and get as much rest possible!
Re: 2023-10-08. E-Werk, Köln DE
Posted: 09 Oct 2023, 09:07
And this is where he's run into problems before. The sensible thing to do would be to cancel or postpone the lot until the issue is solved - most acts would. We know from experience Eldritch will keep going until he's completely unable to. Last minute (and 30 minute in...) cancellations suck, but I understand why they happen - it costs them money to pull out of a performance, he's too stubborn to give in and generally has issues prioritising his own health. That's not a good thing, but it is what it is.
Re: 2023-10-08. E-Werk, Köln DE
Posted: 09 Oct 2023, 13:47
Thank you very much. Turns out my „cold“ is Covid too.
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Just glad I didn’t attempt to go to Leipzig and spread it all around.
So sorry the gig got cancelled. But glad you enjoyed the part that happened anyway.
Re: 2023-10-08. E-Werk, Köln DE
Posted: 09 Oct 2023, 14:03
I realise that you’re disappointed and may have spent a lot of time and money on getting there. But these things happen. I once had the same experience with Peter Murphy in Hamburg.Cedarjet wrote: ↑09 Oct 2023, 07:45Sorry, with all respect to your enduring and steady support for AE and what he‘s doing. That he‘s got a health issue was clear since Berlin, and you can‘t tell me that they only knew at 9 pm that he couldn‘t perform. Cancel it beforehand so everybody can stay home and we get a replacement date later. But like this, also considering people spent money on travel, drinks and merch? Sorry, no. Hope Andrew takes his time for recovery (no more fruitless attempts in the next few days pls) and gets really well.Being645 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2023, 03:30I wouldn't say so. But I'm in a different position. For me it was the first and one and only gig I could attend this year. And it was so pleasing to get into the venue, to meet and talk with all of you I know eventually once again, to see all the lovely unknown people in the audience, to watch The Virginmarys do their opening slot, to listen to the long and ever longer intro, which offered varieties of sounds I'd never heard before at a Sisters gig ... and then the speaker appeared to tell us that Andrew indeed is too unwell to do the show... hell, I hope he gets well soon and sound and the band fall on their feet again. For me it was a lovely evening I definitely can't complain about, even under these worrying circumstances, and I send all my best wishes to Andrew and The Sisters.
But as everyone else already said, health is most important.
And it’s not that easy to cancel a show or a tour because you decide you don’t feel well. In order to not be liable for compensation for the costs of a cancelled show, a doctor must confirm that you’re unable to perform.
We don’t know when that happened.
Anyway also very worried about Von‘s health. And I wish him a quick and thorough recovery. And keeping my fingers crossed that all of you, who plan to go the rest of the tour, will be able to see them.
Despite all the slagging off in the German media I think they were really good.
Re: 2023-10-08. E-Werk, Köln DE
Posted: 09 Oct 2023, 20:20
things can happen on short notice, even with developments obvious since Berlin things can happen without a warning.
Neverthelss, a proper entity, eg a band, would communicate properly, at least after an incident. This is the annoying point and does not shed any nice light onto them.
Hope he gets well soon.
Neverthelss, a proper entity, eg a band, would communicate properly, at least after an incident. This is the annoying point and does not shed any nice light onto them.
Hope he gets well soon.
Re: 2023-10-08. E-Werk, Köln DE
Posted: 09 Oct 2023, 20:26
That‘s exactly my point.jost 7 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2023, 20:20 things can happen on short notice, even with developments obvious since Berlin things can happen without a warning.
Neverthelss, a proper entity, eg a band, would communicate properly, at least after an incident. This is the annoying point and does not shed any nice light onto them.
Hope he gets well soon.
Re: 2023-10-08. E-Werk, Köln DE
Posted: 09 Oct 2023, 20:44
Got to agree with that.Cedarjet wrote: ↑09 Oct 2023, 20:26That‘s exactly my point.jost 7 wrote: ↑09 Oct 2023, 20:20 things can happen on short notice, even with developments obvious since Berlin things can happen without a warning.
Neverthelss, a proper entity, eg a band, would communicate properly, at least after an incident. This is the annoying point and does not shed any nice light onto them.
Hope he gets well soon.