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Also am i going crazy, or did it sound like there were kai backing vox in the first, 30 second clip posted? Seems now a solely Von vocals song, which I'm absolutely not opposed to. Maybe they're still allowing some time for Von to finalise lyric placement before singing along. Just a theory

lazarus corporation wrote: ↑07 Oct 2024, 13:07

DJW wrote: ↑06 Oct 2024, 17:11 “A thousand suns”? Has Von been spending time with Carl McCoy? That’s very Nephilim!

Something about Quantum Baby does remind me of For Her Light

The recorded male choir voices are very Neph indeed

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NineWhileNine wrote: ↑13 Oct 2024, 19:44
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Cool ... ... thanks for sharing ... ...

I don't suppose anyone can share a passable attempt at the guitar tab?

lazarus corporation wrote: ↑18 Oct 2024, 10:41 I don't suppose anyone can share a passable attempt at the guitar tab?

Do you have guitar pro or a midi reader? I'm halfway through transcribing all the tracks of the song (drums, bass, choir, piano, guitar 1 and 2).
I can send you the file once Im finished.

Husek wrote: ↑18 Oct 2024, 15:49

lazarus corporation wrote: ↑18 Oct 2024, 10:41 I don't suppose anyone can share a passable attempt at the guitar tab?

Do you have guitar pro or a midi reader? I'm halfway through transcribing all the tracks of the song (drums, bass, choir, piano, guitar 1 and 2).
I can send you the file once Im finished.

unfortunately not - if there's any way you can export to plain text or screenshot that would be great, otherwise no problem

lazarus corporation wrote: ↑18 Oct 2024, 16:40

Husek wrote: ↑18 Oct 2024, 15:49

lazarus corporation wrote: ↑18 Oct 2024, 10:41 I don't suppose anyone can share a passable attempt at the guitar tab?

Do you have guitar pro or a midi reader? I'm halfway through transcribing all the tracks of the song (drums, bass, choir, piano, guitar 1 and 2).
I can send you the file once Im finished.

unfortunately not - if there's any way you can export to plain text or screenshot that would be great, otherwise no problem

Yeah that can be arranged.
I finished transcribing it, do you need any parts and/or instruments in particular?

Husek wrote: ↑18 Oct 2024, 21:22

lazarus corporation wrote: ↑18 Oct 2024, 16:40

Husek wrote: ↑18 Oct 2024, 15:49

Do you have guitar pro or a midi reader? I'm halfway through transcribing all the tracks of the song (drums, bass, choir, piano, guitar 1 and 2).
I can send you the file once Im finished.

unfortunately not - if there's any way you can export to plain text or screenshot that would be great, otherwise no problem

Yeah that can be arranged.
I finished transcribing it, do you need any parts and/or instruments in particular?

I'm mainly interesting in both guitar parts

Dr. Moody wrote: ↑06 Oct 2024, 17:45

DJW wrote: ↑06 Oct 2024, 17:11 “A thousand suns”? Has Von been spending time with Carl McCoy? That’s very Nephilim!

Probably a reference to Oppenheimer.

This is a clear reference to nuclear holocaust from bombs fall all over the places.

iesus wrote: ↑19 Oct 2024, 17:56

Dr. Moody wrote: ↑06 Oct 2024, 17:45

DJW wrote: ↑06 Oct 2024, 17:11 “A thousand suns”? Has Von been spending time with Carl McCoy? That’s very Nephilim!

Probably a reference to Oppenheimer.

This is a clear reference to nuclear holocaust from bombs fall all over the places.

“If the radiance of a thousand suns
Were to burst at once into the sky
That would be like the splendour of the Mighty One...
I am become Death,
The shatterer of worlds.

[Quoted from the Bhagavad Gita after the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.]”
― J. Robert Oppenheimer

I was just listening to it and realized that with proper recording this could make an outstanding Bond theme song.

sultan2075 wrote: ↑21 Oct 2024, 03:33 I was just listening to it and realized that with proper recording this could make an outstanding Bond theme song.

https://myheartland.co.uk/viewtopic.php ... nd#p721621

Husek wrote: ↑21 Oct 2024, 04:49

sultan2075 wrote: ↑21 Oct 2024, 03:33 I was just listening to it and realized that with proper recording this could make an outstanding Bond theme song.

https://myheartland.co.uk/viewtopic.php ... nd#p721621

Hah!

lilac wrote: ↑06 Oct 2024, 19:44

FMAMMY wrote: ↑06 Oct 2024, 11:02

LyanvisAberrant wrote: ↑06 Oct 2024, 11:32Want some pretty, high backing vox for the inevitable lovely cover? Would love to collab. Pm me! X

Husek wrote: ↑06 Oct 2024, 16:20Already started transcribing a midi file for this song

also, please god let this collab happen

All i can say is: Keep your eyes peeled

Is anyone else hearing "glory of a thousand suns"? Just me?

Sorry folks, a bit late to the party here.

Hats off to everyone who’s untangled this so far, better ears than mine.

The first line of the chorus has an extra two beats that seem to cause a lot of confusion, and Von doesn’t yet seem to be sure what he’s going to do with them to make it scan. Like Eighthcircle, I do think it’s ‘We have the glory of a thousand suns’ (no harbours), plus some extra fill somewhere on the line – we’ve had a double pause, ‘of a, of a’ as a repeat and an extra mumble between ‘thousand’ and ‘suns’ (no idea what word Von’s using, could be splendid, blazing, golden, anything with a similar rhythm).

So I suggest the following for the whole song:

I love you like I loved you yesterday
I don't know you I believe you anyway
We're entangled but the circle weaves away
You're a little quantum, baby.…
But hey

We have the glory of a [pause pause] thousand suns
And one and one is only one
Fade into the one

We are this but we are not
I will not I miss what we have got
We are made of stardust
I bear the scars
We are made of stars

We have the glory of a, of a thousand suns
And one and one is only one
Fade into the one

We have the glory of a thousand [mumble] suns
And one and one is only one
Fade into the one


As a physicist, it’s a really intriguing song – plenty of beautiful poetic images of indeterminacy, uncertainty, superposition of states, entanglement, wavefunction collapse etc. It aches with yearning - the supernova/stardust pair, but with the typically Eldritch ambiguity of the Oppenheimer atom bomb link others have pointed out. And an absolute banger obviously. I love it. More please!

Cheers,
S.

(One of the ancient denizens of Dominion, belatedly popping up here. Don’t worry, I’ll shut up now and crawl back underneath my rock )

esf wrote: ↑25 Oct 2024, 22:46 ... [mumble] ...

First 100% accurate lyric posted ITT

Kidding, I reckon yours above is a good take.

I think it's about dementia, and a relationship that declines with one/both peoples' memories. I think it switches between the voices of the lovers.

There's a lover who can't remember why or how or when they loved "you", and who literally "won't miss" it, because they won't remember it.

Two people are entangled but the circle waves away, and their entangled threads are being becoming the warp and the weft - gradually these intertwined threads will be at cross purposes with one another.

I think that "quantum" is meant in the literal sense - ie, the smallest physical amount of something: this love (and this person's self and personality) is shrinking and reducing, and at some point it will reduce to a single final quantum, before it disappears forever. The lover is going a little bit quantum in the sense that their mind is gradually dismantling, piece by piece.

I think that the stuff around Oppenheimer is more indirect and oblique (and honestly, I don't imagine Eldritch finds Nolan films that interesting, though i may be projecting): I think he's drawing a metaphorical connection between wave function collapse and memory collapse. I think the reference to 'weaving' - that being a process by which threads are made into a flat plane- may also be a part of this.

I suspect that someone known to Eldritch is losing, or has lost, their memory, and I think he's saying "yes but the love and multitudes which this person held within them were so deep and vast in their reach, that if it really were possible to measure such things, then the cruel dismantling of their consciousness, piece-by-piece, ought to have been like splitting the atom: a bright and beautiful nuclear explosion is all that could possibly express the full extent of this person's glory".

FadeInto1 wrote: ↑28 Oct 2024, 09:19 I suspect that someone known to Eldritch is losing, or has lost, their memory, and I think he's saying "yes but the love and multitudes which this person held within them were so deep and vast in their reach, that if it really were possible to measure such things, then the cruel dismantling of their consciousness, piece-by-piece, ought to have been like splitting the atom: a bright and beautiful nuclear explosion is all that could possibly express the full extent of this person's glory".

Regardless of whether or not the song itself is about dementia, that's a pretty beautiful way of capturing the essence of the condition. I look after folk living with dementia for a living and on a daily basis I try and fail to express to the people and their families (and my colleagues) exactly this, just nowhere near as eloquently or effectively.

There have been worse first posts! Welcome to Heartland and whilst we are here, welcome also to esf, I wouldn't be worrying too much about any historical squabbles between Dominion and here, I doubt anyone really cares anymore, nor should they.

lazarus corporation wrote: ↑07 Oct 2024, 13:07

DJW wrote: ↑06 Oct 2024, 17:11 “A thousand suns”? Has Von been spending time with Carl McCoy? That’s very Nephilim!

Something about Quantum Baby does remind me of For Her Light

Dear sir, you are wrong.

Oops. Posted in error and the delete button has inexplicably vanished. Ignore this.

Planet Dave wrote: ↑28 Oct 2024, 09:36 ... whilst we are here, welcome also to esf, I wouldn't be worrying too much about any historical squabbles between Dominion and here, I doubt anyone really cares anymore, nor should they.

Thank you PlanetDave. I suppose I mentioned Dominion more to put myself in context really. GPS too. It certainly wasn’t my intention to start raking over past grievances, so apologies if I was misconstrued.

Been thinking again about Quantum Baby and wondering if there is any mileage in a comparison with (We Are The Same) Suzanne? Both are obviously full of physics references, but I’m thinking more about the Suzanne/Susannah thing (which we know is only heard, not literally spelled out like that). It implies a person with (at least) two facets, unresolved, indecipherable, paralleling QB’s indeterminate state. Or possibly the original indeterminate state, which QB has collapsed, one way or the other, perhaps unintentionally.

Just a suggestion, anyway – I know the 20-odd years between them makes this a long shot.

Cheers,
S.
(Yes, I am usually this glacially slow )

Planet Dave wrote: ↑28 Oct 2024, 09:36

FadeInto1 wrote: ↑28 Oct 2024, 09:19 I suspect that someone known to Eldritch is losing, or has lost, their memory, and I think he's saying "yes but the love and multitudes which this person held within them were so deep and vast in their reach, that if it really were possible to measure such things, then the cruel dismantling of their consciousness, piece-by-piece, ought to have been like splitting the atom: a bright and beautiful nuclear explosion is all that could possibly express the full extent of this person's glory".

Regardless of whether or not the song itself is about dementia, that's a pretty beautiful way of capturing the essence of the condition. I look after folk living with dementia for a living and on a daily basis I try and fail to express to the people and their families (and my colleagues) exactly this, just nowhere near as eloquently or effectively.

There have been worse first posts! Welcome to Heartland and whilst we are here, welcome also to esf, I wouldn't be worrying too much about any historical squabbles between Dominion and here, I doubt anyone really cares anymore, nor should they.

That's nice of you to say, cheers.

I suppose the other part of the lyric that has got me on this line of thinking is "One and one is only one", which I think encapsulates the loneliness of witnessing one's partner lose all memory of their self: you can be sat there with someone who is the other half of you, and find yourself despairing that one plus one no longer equals two. At the same time: we are made of stardust, and perhaps in some cosmic sense, the process by which two people "fade into one" is a process of unification. At some point, if I'm the last person left to remember you, then all that can be known of you is in me.

I really feel strongly that QB imagines (or maybe documents) a dialogue between two people whose relationship is collapsing at the same rate as one partner's mind.