)John Cale vs Lou Reed
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randdebiel²
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oh, I admit it's ok...I love sweet jane....but there's Diug yule....the crappy production...and clearly something missing, my guess is: Calekafka wrote:http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... 91-6094516randdebiel² wrote: You love loaded?ok then I understand, but what do you mean be Sun blinded music?
something that I missed in Cale's career?
And what's not to love about Loaded? It's a lovely album - Sweet Jane? New Age? etc. Admittedly, it's quite different - more like The Beatles than The Velvets' earlier stuff.. but I'd recommend you go back and listen to it again, cos it's fab.
indeed....it's more beatles-like....and I don't like the beatles (except a few songs that are more velvet-like
)Indeed saying that it's bad is a bit exagerated, but it's not the velvet anymore.....maybe another reason why I believe it's more John Cale than Lou reed who was the velvet.......
what I liked most avout the velvet was the music, especially on the first two albums, which are the only ones I still listen to regularly.....
for me the velvet afterwards lacks exactly what roxy music became after Brian Eno left.....a pretty classic, a bit above average (which in the case of roxy music went pretty steepy downwards afterwards..)pop band....
shiny, shiny, shiny boots of leather....
im gonna have to stand up for mr yule here
sure- squeeze was pathetic for a v.u. album. I mean- it had neither Cale nor Reed. It just had Yule BUT it doesnt sound that bad- blame that bastard manager whatever his name was. It seems like that was the direction that the velvet underground wouldve most likely gone anyway. So nowone blame Mr Yule- He was young and in need of a job- that and it has the fantastic Ian paice of Deep Purple Fame on drums. but as a V.U album...madness
sure- squeeze was pathetic for a v.u. album. I mean- it had neither Cale nor Reed. It just had Yule BUT it doesnt sound that bad- blame that bastard manager whatever his name was. It seems like that was the direction that the velvet underground wouldve most likely gone anyway. So nowone blame Mr Yule- He was young and in need of a job- that and it has the fantastic Ian paice of Deep Purple Fame on drums. but as a V.U album...madness
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randdebiel²
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yes but the point is:it's SUPPOSED to be on a velvet album.....noone says loaded is really that bad....but as a velvet album it is.....if almost any other band would have released reloaded I'd say it was a fine albulm, but it wsn't some low-rate 60's pop band....it was the velvet underground....and as such, below par.....
shiny, shiny, shiny boots of leather....