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MAtT wrote:Believe me, there's a difference. You probably have to be into your pop music to notice it - but there is a difference!

why should i have to "believe" you? if there does exist a definable difference between the music of dido and that of, for example, will young then it should be possible for this difference to be objectively defined. i can only assume from your continual attempts to evade the debate that the stupor induced by listening to more than a few seconds of dido's mind-sapping pap leaves you incapable of rational discourse.

and, for your information, i can easily recognise a good pop tune. the aural wallpaper churned out by dido et al does not fit the bill....

It's a well-known expression, not a plea for understanding! If you can show me the formula for objectively defining music i'd be most grateful. Perhaps we could score it out of 100 on a points-based system?

To get you in the mood here's some testers:

1. Objectively define the difference (if any) between The Rubette's "Sugar Baby Love" and the Sisters' cover of said tune. Which (if any) is pop?

2. Name me a "good" pop tune. Define "good"

*chuckles*

Oh dear.............
<Sits back with some popcorn>

Actually saw Dido live once. It was a gig at Shepherd's Bush that I was reviewing for the paper I worked for at that time.

Really enjoyed the gig, thought she had a good voice and there were some interesting songs.

Then I bought the album (the first one). What a disappointment. Bland, vapid: the musical equivalent of a Big Mac. It's close to being music but it isn't actually the same thing.

Conclusion: there's a good act waiting to get out of her, but while she (or her record company) are interested in selling records it won't emerge in a hurry.

As for attempting to objectively quantify the quality of different types of music, anyone seen the opening of Dead Poets Society?

Do the quiz, kids.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,36 ... 47,00.html

Karst wrote:Do the quiz, kids.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,36 ... 47,00.html

i have these:

Dummy by Portishead
Play by Moby
Is This it by The Strokes (and yes, sadly that was it. )
OK Computer by Radiohead
Protection by Massive Attack



but for none of the reasons they put forward...

my reasons?

Dummy by Portishead
because the production is superb, the arrangements wonderous and her voice very sexy torch songs to die for.

Play by Moby
got most of moby's other stuff (albums, 12"s etc) so this was just a logical extension. and its much better than his bloody "happy hardcore" rubbish!

Is This it by The Strokes (and yes, sadly that was it. )
ok, i'll admit it. i saw it cheap and wondered what the fuss was about. i listened to the first few seconds of the first few tracks in the store and heard some stooges-esque tones so i bought it. took it home and listened to it 3 times, sick of it now. the songs go absolutely nowhere. 2 dimensional at best

OK Computer by Radiohead
see moby

Protection by Massive Attack
see radiohead

hmm, what demographic does thet make me?

I have Alanis and that's it! AND IT BLOODY WELL DOES NOT MAKE ME A DILDO FAN!!!!!!!

and back at the thread...

'When The Rush Comes' by Motorcycle - roll on the summer festivals, 3AM, defying the Geneva Convention,

or that Boogie Pimps number, or is that Best Video of 2004.

or could that belong to Kelis (only to be enjoyed with strategic employment of the mute button).

andymackem wrote:As for attempting to objectively quantify the quality of different types of music, anyone seen the opening of Dead Poets Society?

lol, yeah

From the guardian thing i have:

Dummy by Portishead
Tracy Chapman
Parachutes by Coldplay
The Man Who by Travis
Play by Moby
Angel by Dido
Urban Hymns by The Verve
OK Computer by Radiohead
Jagged Little Pill by Alanis Morrisette
What's the Story Morning Glory by Oasis
Legend by Bob Marley
Bedtime Stories by Madonna
Solitude Standing by Suzanne Vega

*chuckle*

But again - not for most of the reasons listed there... I just like most music. I also have:

http://greyarea2971.tripod.com/My_Stuff ... _Music.htm

And that's about 1000 or so tracks out of date...

Yes, but are quite proud of the fact you listen to Dido for some really bizarre reason

I'm neither proud nor ashamed of the fact. It's just music that i happen to enjoy subjectively. Should I be proud or ashamed that i like carrots?

you should be very ashamed of yourself young man, they are the food of the devil!

Luckily my question was rhetorical. I don't like carrots. Unless they are canned. (think of the can as like one of those magic protective circles around the demon that is carotti)

Sure.

MAtT wrote:I happen to enjoy subjectively.

carrot..............Dido............Dildo!!!!! OH dear, I see a pattern emerging..............

Sexygoth wrote:carrot..............Dido............Dildo!!!!! OH dear, I see a pattern emerging..............

now she gets it. now she sees...

shut it, fartwinkle

Is that a technical term?

*shuts it*

Yes it is.....It's the first thing nurses learn to say, after drinking Tizer pretending that how you check for urine infections!!! mwhahahahahahaha

As for the Guardian thing, I have:

No Angel (see earlier post);
OK Computer (friends' recommendation. Still mixed views on R'head);
Different Class (because I like it, and His'n'Hers which I bought when it first came out).

I also have the second Portishead album, but not Dummy. Haven't listened to it in ages. Don't think I have anything by any of the other artists, though I do have Belinda Carlisle's Greatest Hits.

So, what do I win?

I have high hopes for Snow Patrol and Franz Ferdinand.

oh... and I own Morning Glory and Protection.

Red Sunsets wrote:I have high hopes for Snow Patrol and Franz Ferdinand.

oh... and I own Morning Glory and Protection.

franz ferdinand are great

might have known you'd like them! "the new scottish gentry"

Franz Ferdinand's single is tops and so is the
Eighties Matchbox B-line Disaster single Mister Mental