The Sisters of Mercy Forum
Red Sunsets wrote:My Favourite Day! vol.i
Atlanta, Georgia watching the Falcons (see avatar) get ripped apart by the Mighty New York Giants, September 1987.
Fantastic atmos. 3+ hour game, beer on tap, toilets less than a 2 min. walk, hot soft-salty pretzels, sunshine and very, very friendly peeps.
Magnificent!
Fellow NFL fan.
a lot of dumbs ones too.....it's not that for example Clinton was so much better than dubya....WhatWouldAndrewDo? wrote:HiYou can tease me all you want, because I'm kind of an idiot sometimes. I just wanted to make sure you all knew that there are lots of intelligent Americans here, that distrust the government and think your version of football is OK and like other songs besides This Corrosion.
I love the country but I can't stand the scene (copyright L Cohen)WhatWouldAndrewDo? wrote:I didn't vote for Bush in 2000, and as you probably know more people voted for Gore anyways, but Bush got handed the presidency because of the f'ing electoral college and Supreme Court. I have never trusted anything he and his administration have done, and I have been firmly against the stupid war from the beginning (well, I supported what was done in Afghanistan, but what's going on in Iraq is BS). I love this country, but I hate where it is going. I am going to do everything I can to get Bush out of office, and so are MANY of my friends. Anyway, I shudder at how the USA must look to the rest of the world right now, but please understand there are a whole lot of us here that are trying our hardest to fix things. I hope to go to Europe someday, so if you meet me and my ugly East Coast American accent, I hope you will be nice to me.
I agree. If you cannot be bothered to register, don't complain later. Only sad thing is that the outcome of a US presidential election has effect on us all, not just Americans.andymackem wrote:When you say Bush was handed the election, is that strictly true?
Given the low turn-out it's more like he found it lying around on the sidewalk and put it in his pocket while no-one was paying much attention.
I sympathise with those Americans who voted against him and who can justly feel robbed. But all those who didn't bother to hang their chads? Tough buns, boys. Democracy is a two-way street.
Although I agree about low-voter turnout, in this case when one says Bush was "handed" the election, it is strictly true. Bush did not win the popular vote, and should not have won the electoral vote. Had he not been "handed" Florida's electoral votes by his brother Jeb, he would not have won the presidency.* But that's all old hat, ain't it?Hojyuu-obi wrote:I agree. If you cannot be bothered to register, don't complain later. Only sad thing is that the outcome of a US presidential election has effect on us all, not just Americans.andymackem wrote:When you say Bush was handed the election, is that strictly true?
Given the low turn-out it's more like he found it lying around on the sidewalk and put it in his pocket while no-one was paying much attention.
I sympathise with those Americans who voted against him and who can justly feel robbed. But all those who didn't bother to hang their chads? Tough buns, boys. Democracy is a two-way street.
Yes, but there's a new "flip-of-coin" election coming up in a few months, I hope people will have a little more sence this time (you know the "lesser of two evils" and all that) ... Still I have a feeling that this one will be "close" again. Wait and see.CorpPunk wrote:But that's all old hat, ain't it?Hojyuu-obi wrote:I agree. If you cannot be bothered to register, don't complain later. Only sad thing is that the outcome of a US presidential election has effect on us all, not just Americans.andymackem wrote:When you say Bush was handed the election, is that strictly true?
Given the low turn-out it's more like he found it lying around on the sidewalk and put it in his pocket while no-one was paying much attention.
I sympathise with those Americans who voted against him and who can justly feel robbed. But all those who didn't bother to hang their chads? Tough buns, boys. Democracy is a two-way street.
Well, it's not much use hoping the American people will have more sense this time, because you have to remember that the American people had enough sense not to elect Bush the last time.Hojyuu-obi wrote:Yes, but there's a new "flip-of-coin" election coming up in a few months, I hope people will have a little more sence this time (you know the "lesser of two evils" and all that) ... Still I have a feeling that this one will be "close" again. Wait and see.CorpPunk wrote:But that's all old hat, ain't it?Hojyuu-obi wrote: I agree. If you cannot be bothered to register, don't complain later. Only sad thing is that the outcome of a US presidential election has effect on us all, not just Americans.
Maybe I should have said I hope they don't grow out of sense thenCorpPunk wrote:Well, it's not much use hoping the American people will have more sense this time, because you have to remember that the American people had enough sense not to elect Bush the last time.Hojyuu-obi wrote:Yes, but there's a new "flip-of-coin" election coming up in a few months, I hope people will have a little more sence this time (you know the "lesser of two evils" and all that) ... Still I have a feeling that this one will be "close" again. Wait and see.CorpPunk wrote: But that's all old hat, ain't it?
That said, I think the election will be very close, and unless something happens before November to strengthen the Democratic showing, I have a sickening feeling that Bush will be elected legitimately this time. But I'm not voting for his crazy ass.
. Having sense in this case could also mean that more people should register, maybe it doesn't have to come to the ridiculous situation as last time (?). You will vote tho CP? People fought for your right to vote.CorpPunk wrote:But I'm not voting for his crazy ass.
e:notworthy:kafka wrote:I'm not sure about having cajones, but the man sure does talk a load of bollocks.
Sail on, o mighty Ship of State...
lol!
Red Sunsets wrote:You will vote tho CP? People fought for your right to vote.CorpPunk wrote:But I'm not voting for his crazy ass.
If 'A Government' took away that right, just what the hell would we do?
If I have one belief, it is the right to make my own mind up, right/wrong, I don't care.
I have the choice
Sorry peeps, I don't usually get involved in these discussions, but I believe in the freedom to vote and I am very let down by the British attitude of 'whoever you vote for, the Government always get in'.
Change it!
Party for your right to fight!
and fergoodnessaik STOP reading The Sun and it's ilk!
Mainly, get off yer deadasses and VOTE!
rave over
to RS. Of course I'm voting--I always do. And this year, like last election, it's going to be more a case of against than for. Well said, mf.markfiend wrote:Red Sunsets wrote:You will vote tho CP? People fought for your right to vote.CorpPunk wrote:But I'm not voting for his crazy ass.
If 'A Government' took away that right, just what the hell would we do?
If I have one belief, it is the right to make my own mind up, right/wrong, I don't care.
I have the choice
Sorry peeps, I don't usually get involved in these discussions, but I believe in the freedom to vote and I am very let down by the British attitude of 'whoever you vote for, the Government always get in'.
Change it!
Party for your right to fight!
and fergoodnessaik STOP reading The Sun and it's ilk!
Mainly, get off yer deadasses and VOTE!
rave over
It's always worth voting. Even if there's no-one you want to vote for, there will be someone you can vote against.
Black Planet wrote: I am not a Bush hater. I voted for and support the man. He has something most world leaders do not have.
Cahones.
In english...that means balls.
He is just like I am.
BP, there are apparently things about you that we would not have expected. You have balls? 
yeah, it takes a real man to murder thousands prosecuting an illegal war...Black Planet wrote:I am still going to say you can kiss my Arizona sun burnt to a crisp yankee ass.
I am not a Bush hater. I voted for and support the man. He has something most world leaders do not have.
Cahones.
In english...that means balls.
