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The Green Lantern wrote: By the way, the sax bit on Sandstorm must be a synth as well. Can't tell wether it is on Dominion as well, but that is one brilliant sax solo.

Dominion is most definitely a real sax. You could'nt fake that with a synth in 1987; as it is, it would be pretty hard to fake that one now. Maybe with a Korg Triton or similar synth and alot of editing you could pull it off now, but certainly not with a Yamaha DX-7 or whatever the Sisters were using back then. That being said, it's a very cool solo. Been meaning to learn it on guitar for some time; never did...

I'm fairly certain it's synth bass throughout most, if not all of the album, though. Dominon and Lucretia are too robotic sounding to be real; there's no variation at all in the sound of the notes. Even played with a pick, the bass wouldn't sound that consistant and mechanical. Flood I and This Corrosion are obviously a synth. 1959 has no bass whatsoever. The official site says at least half of Neverland is a synth (no mention of the rest...?) though oddly enough, it's more realistic sounding than either Lucretia or Dominion. Flood II and Driven Like The Snow are debatable; if I had the album with me, I'd give it a listen, but I don't. Driven has a pretty prominent "real" sounding bass line; I wouldn't be too surprised if that's the only real bass on the whole thing...

markfiend wrote:I remember hearing that the (vocal at least) Dominion version of Emma was recorded in Camden's Electric Ballroom; just Von and a backing tape singing to an empty club.

I heard a similar story, but The Kilburn national was mentioned s the venue.

So why is Danny mass on the credits?

markfiend wrote:It definitely sounds like a real bass, but not necessarily Pasty...

paint it black wrote:pasty hopefully more active than 1959 vid

So basically all she did was eat all the pies during this period ..?

All the evidence seems to suggest so

JB wrote: So basically all she did was eat all the pies during this period ..?

Sexygothâ„¢ wrote:All the evidence seems to suggest so

You have besmirched the good name of the fair Ms. Morrison.

Sir and madam, I suggest you apologise, lest I challenge you to a duel! at dawn, with pistols!

Black Shuck wrote:

JB wrote: So basically all she did was eat all the pies during this period ..?

Sexygothâ„¢ wrote:All the evidence seems to suggest so

You have besmirched the good name of the fair Ms. Morrison.

Sir and madam, I suggest you apologise, lest I challenge you to a duel! at dawn, with pistols!

lets just hope they arent edible bullets or mr morrison will have eaten all those too

sorry, not fair. but i couldnt resist :inncoent:

Quiff Boy wrote:

Black Shuck wrote:

JB wrote: So basically all she did was eat all the pies during this period ..?

Sexygothâ„¢ wrote:All the evidence seems to suggest so

You have besmirched the good name of the fair Ms. Morrison.

Sir and madam, I suggest you apologise, lest I challenge you to a duel! at dawn, with pistols!

lets just hope they arent edible bullets or mr morrison will have eaten all those too

sorry, not fair. but i couldnt resist :inncoent:

@BS Bring it on

@Quiffy

Well, whoever played the bass on Emma, it's a feckin great 'woody' sound. Ok then, who is playing the tinny guitar?

Spiggy's hat wrote:So why is Danny mass on the credits?

Apparently he's in the This Corrosion video appearing momentarily sticking his head out of a dustbin. I don't have the video to hand but last time I looked the person in the dustbin looked nothing like him. Anyone got a screencap?

Dan wrote:

Spiggy's hat wrote:So why is Danny mass on the credits?

Apparently he's in the This Corrosion video appearing momentarily sticking his head out of a dustbin. I don't have the video to hand but last time I looked the person in the dustbin looked nothing like him. Anyone got a screencap?

just watched it now and cant see him.

there's a young kid that sticks his head out of a bin, quite near the start, but he only looks about 10...

Peter Peret (?) of The Only Ones is mentioned in the liner notes, too. Eddie MArtinez played with Robert Plamer on a VH1 special years back. He was a hot-s**t player, for sure.

Sexygothâ„¢ wrote:
@BS Bring it on

Right, I guess I'll see you at dawn, then.

shivarising wrote: Peter Peret (?) of The Only Ones is mentioned in the liner notes

Not quite sure what Perret did other than hang around and offer moral support. Or maybe do some duelling baritones between recordings.

On the other hand, John Perry The Only Ones' guitarist is credited with 'special guest guitars' on VT.

I was a big The Only Ones fan. Probably the only one. No pun intended.

JB wrote: I was a big The Only Ones fan. Probably the only one. No pun intended.

You're in good company.

That Guitarist is also a big fan

Spiggy's hat wrote:

JB wrote: I was a big The Only Ones fan. Probably the only one. No pun intended.

You're in good company.

That Guitarist is also a big fan

BASTARD!

PS: Still watching your recently accquired Crusader vid ...

JB wrote:

Spiggy's hat wrote:

JB wrote: I was a big The Only Ones fan. Probably the only one. No pun intended.

You're in good company.

That Guitarist is also a big fan

BASTARD!

PS: Still watching your recently accquired Crusader vid ...

I need a copy of the Rose Of Avalanche at the town & country club video. I can play that 1st, then go for a p*ss before playing Crusade. It will be just like Leeds Poly november 1986.

http://www.sendit.com/video/item/7000000010978

aye, "deleted"

Quiff Boy wrote:http://www.sendit.com/video/item/7000000010978

aye, "deleted"

a ha!

http://screenedge.com/shop/Search.asp?S ... untry+Club (cant see this from work so i assume it works)

http://video.reviewindex.co.uk/reviews_ ... 8T263.html

So who actually played on Floodland, anyway?

from my info - Guest Musicians --

Tawatha Agee & Jimmy Bralower.

Guest Vocalists -- Jeff Bova


Cheers Reptile

If JD drew blood, then the sisters cut through to the bone, it hurts but feels sooo.... good.

paint it black wrote:

markfiend wrote:I remember hearing that the (vocal at least) Dominion version of Emma was recorded in Camden's Electric Ballroom; just Von and a backing tape singing to an empty club.

It definitely sounds like a real bass, but not necessarily Pasty...

vid of it aswell.

paint it black wrote:vid of it aswell. decideded not to include it on shot.

Where did you hear there was a video? From what I heard it was recorded with full lightshow and dry ice but no audience or film crew...

paint it black wrote:pasty hopefully more active than 1959 vid

...and that Eldo sung to a backing tape so fat pat wouldn't have been there at all.

Of course Von might have stuck a camcorder on a tripod and left it running to record it that way, much like there's usually a camcorder set up somewhere on the sound desk at some of the gigs. I guess the videos are a bit boring though with nobody at the controls.

JB wrote:

shivarising wrote: Peter Peret (?) of The Only Ones is mentioned in the liner notes

Not quite sure what Perret did other than hang around and offer moral support. Or maybe do some duelling baritones between recordings.

On the other hand, John Perry The Only Ones' guitarist is credited with 'special guest guitars' on VT.

I was a big The Only Ones fan. Probably the only one. No pun intended.

Right, well, shouldn't be on here after smoking a doobie anyway, then.

Yeah, I guess it was John Perry I was thinking of. 'Course, from what I remember, Peter Perrett wouldn't be top choice for offering any moral support. At least, not this side of Syd Barrett.

to doubt that lucretia has a real bass is almost a sacrilege - for everybody who has ever held an instrument with strings in their hands.
and: to compose a track like lucretia affords real instruments (please compare with the 'new' songs )

Just to return to this briefly, I've just been reading through an interview with AE in UTR 11, and he says:

With the exception of the solos on "This Corrosion", I myself played all the guitars on Floodland, so there's tons and tons of them.

I think we can safely presume that the solo on Floodland was courtesy of Eddie Martinez, so that's the definitive answer for the guitars.

lazarus corporation wrote:Just to return to this briefly, I've just been reading through an interview with AE in UTR 11, and he says:

With the exception of the solos on "This Corrosion", I myself played all the guitars on Floodland, so there's tons and tons of them.

I think we can safely presume that the solo on Floodland was courtesy of Eddie Martinez, so that's the definitive answer for the guitars.

doesn't JR's contribution count then? no wonder he was pissed off with von