Heartland

Here is the story of two of my uncles, both took place in the space the last few months of last year:

Uncle 1, perfectly healy 60+ year old, jogged 5KM per day, but was very depressed over the death of his wife (due to cancer) and took his own life in the most carefully planned out suicide you could imagine.

Uncle 2, died of brain cancer, despite loving life and having a supportive family, he definitely didn't choose to when he wanted to die.

markfiend wrote: I don't really know what to say to that John!

I guess that the "will to survive" can have an effect. It's just that having lost family members to cancer, it annoys me that someone can say this:

Death is a choice we make when we have nowhere else to go. We each decide that time for ourselves.

It's pretty hard for someone to decide not to die with multiple metastasizing tumours throughout their whole body. OK they might hold it off for a month or two longer than otherwise, but it's going to kill them whatever they "decide".

No, fair comment and I guess my post was bit of a conversation stopper.

It's not all black and white and there are certain situations where no amount of inner strength will help you. But on the other hand there are situations where it can and it will.

Note the determination of the Black Knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

Black Biscuit wrote:

markfiend wrote:Yeah it's that easy isn't it? Think positive thoughts and wear an orange jump-suit and everything will be OK?

---- You sure are a Sisters fan, aren't you?

Preferred choice of listening matter has nowt to do with it. Whether you want your loved ones to be told there's nothing wrong with them that PMA couldn't sort out is another thing entirely.

markfiend wrote: I don't really know what to say to that John!

I guess that the "will to survive" can have an effect. It's just that having lost family members to cancer, it annoys me that someone can say this:

Death is a choice we make when we have nowhere else to go. We each decide that time for ourselves.

It's pretty hard for someone to decide not to die with multiple metastasizing tumours throughout their whole body. OK they might hold it off for a month or two longer than otherwise, but it's going to kill them whatever they "decide".

Death comes to claim us all. The only choice we have is how we accept it when he comes knocking. I'm not sure we have any choice whether to let him in or not.

Is it tasteless to remind y'all of Johnny's far right leanings?
Hopefully he found merciful release......

Death. We miss them. But do they miss us?

What were this guy's "far right leanings"? Did he end up living in Bel Air or Benedict Canyon or Malibu Colony or Beverley Hills or Holmby Hills, et al, or something?

Which one was he? Those guys all looked the same to me. He certainly must've come a long way from the days when the band wore the same stripey-t-shirt-and-leather-jacket outfit worn by male hookers around the stretch of NY neighbourhood the Ramones' once called home.