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Posted: 07 Nov 2004, 21:18
by James Blast
Zulu's pretty weird relying on all those clicks and what not
or have I got it wrong, again?

Posted: 08 Nov 2004, 00:49
by boudicca
Scottish, and I'm an honorary Austrian/German, on account of having spent roughly half a year out of my life there on holiday.

I'd be Dutch as well, if they'll take me. The language makes me smile.

Posted: 08 Nov 2004, 06:53
by CtrlAltDelete
I have both American and French citizenship.

(insert 1,001 jokes here)

Posted: 08 Nov 2004, 06:57
by Mrs RicheyJames
lucretia wrote:
hallucienate wrote:
Sexygothâ„¢ wrote:Because Hall's a dillweed!!!
if you'd be so kind as to explain to us what a dillweed is I can figure out whether or not to take offense.

P.S. I'm not the only Sarf Efrican here. :roll:

Er why don't SA count? Still trying to figure out whether I should be hurt or not.
I was only refering to Hallucienate :lol: :lol:

Posted: 08 Nov 2004, 08:08
by hallucienate
lucretia wrote:
hallucienate wrote:
Sexygothâ„¢ wrote:Because Hall's a dillweed!!!
if you'd be so kind as to explain to us what a dillweed is I can figure out whether or not to take offense.

P.S. I'm not the only Sarf Efrican here. :roll:

Er why don't SA count? Still trying to figure out whether I should be hurt or not.
it'sa comment from SG, therefore best ignored.

pradly sarf efrican

Posted: 08 Nov 2004, 08:47
by andymackem
Quiff Boy wrote:when i was at uni i shared a house with a chap who was first-generation hungarian immigrant - his parent were "straight off the boat" (to use his own description).

he said the hungarian language was one of the few languages with no tracable influences - ie: that there were no words deriving from any of the other "parent" languages - latin, nordic, gaelic, etc and as such it was a very strange tongue... i used to hear him speaking hungarian on the phone to his parents from time to time and he was right. a very curious-sounding language...
Which boat would take you from landlocked Hungary to island Britain? :D

IIRC Hungarian is only related to a few obscure, semi-extinct Siberian dialects. The huge geographical gaps reflect the equestrian culture of the early Magyars, apparently. And yes, it's a crazy language. Saw a Hungarian film recently and couldn't make any sort of fist of the structure of the language. I'm usually pretty good at dissecting grammar irrespective of whether I can translate the words (that does make sense, promise!) but not this time.

Posted: 08 Nov 2004, 13:51
by nigel d
welsh.
but living in england.(unfortunately for some)

Posted: 08 Nov 2004, 14:02
by randdebiel²
belgian

Posted: 08 Nov 2004, 14:16
by lazarus corporation
Well, to date that gives us:

British (inc. People's Republic of West Yorkshire, assorted principalities & other subjugated kingdoms ;) )
American
Canadian
Portugese
Swedish
French
German
South African
Norwegian
Italian
Latvian
Belgian
Dutch
Estonian
Polish
Finnish
Swiss

and I'm pretty sure we have at least one Greek and one Australian here as well, with the Peruvian contingent having been ejected.

Interesting lack of representation from Eire, Northern Ireland, Spain and Denmark.

Posted: 08 Nov 2004, 14:24
by hallucienate
James Blast wrote:Zulu's pretty weird relying on all those clicks and what not
or have I got it wrong, again?
most the the african languages (around SA at least) have 'em. Most noticably the languages of the Khoi and San (bushmen to you), the original people of Southern Africa (and probably the world).

Posted: 08 Nov 2004, 16:37
by Hojyuu-obi
lazarus corporation wrote:Well, to date that gives us:

British (inc. People's Republic of West Yorkshire, assorted principalities & other subjugated kingdoms ;) )
American
Canadian
Portugese
Swedish
French
German
South African
Norwegian
Italian
Latvian
Belgian
Dutch
Estonian
Polish
Finnish
Swiss

and I'm pretty sure we have at least one Greek and one Australian here as well, with the Peruvian contingent having been ejected.

Interesting lack of representation from Eire, Northern Ireland, Spain and Denmark.
...Jost 7 is from Austria IIRC, Ganith from Spain ...

Posted: 08 Nov 2004, 16:57
by Quiff Boy
and i seem to recall karst is from NI... or is at least living there, even if he isn't actually irish :?:

Posted: 08 Nov 2004, 17:05
by Hojyuu-obi
Quiff Boy wrote:and i seem to recall karst is from NI... or is at least living there, even if he isn't actually irish :?:
I think Karst's originally Dutch (?) ...

Posted: 08 Nov 2004, 17:07
by Quiff Boy
Hojyuu-obi wrote:
Quiff Boy wrote:and i seem to recall karst is from NI... or is at least living there, even if he isn't actually irish :?:
I think Karst's originally Dutch (?) ...
aye, that sounds familiar...

Posted: 08 Nov 2004, 17:10
by Loki
Hojyuu-obi wrote:
Quiff Boy wrote:and i seem to recall karst is from NI... or is at least living there, even if he isn't actually irish :?:
I think Karst's originally Dutch (?) ...
Indeed. Though I think he's still Dutch but just living in Belfast. :innocent:

I also recall Elguiri is from UK oop north but living in Spain ... :?:

Posted: 08 Nov 2004, 17:23
by markfiend
Project for someone with even less to do than I have:
Draw a big map of the world with bar-graph-style thingies for myheartland-posters-per-country. ;D

Posted: 08 Nov 2004, 17:26
by Petseri
There is at least one Hungarian member here, although he does not post very often, so add that nationality to the list. At least he has a Hungarian address. Are we making distictions between nationality and citizenship?
Quiff Boy wrote:when i was at uni i shared a house with a chap who was first-generation hungarian immigrant - his parent were "straight off the boat" (to use his own description).

he said the hungarian language was one of the few languages with no tracable influences - ie: that there were no words deriving from any of the other "parent" languages - latin, nordic, gaelic, etc and as such it was a very strange tongue... i used to hear him speaking hungarian on the phone to his parents from time to time and he was right. a very curious-sounding language...
Hungarian does indeed have borrowed words, often from Turkish (during the 150m years of Turkish occupation) or German (from the Habsburg era), but I can think of one Italian derivation as well. I have had enough conversation with my father (a Finno-Ugric linguist, by choice :eek: ) to have picked up on such details.

@ Indrek: did you ever realize that the Estonian word rääkima (for "to speak") comes from a Germanic source? :eek:

Martin

Posted: 08 Nov 2004, 17:28
by markfiend
Petseri wrote:Are we making diustictions between nationality and citizenship?
If so can I pretend to be a Martian immigrant please?

Posted: 08 Nov 2004, 17:31
by Quiff Boy
i could look into adding a "country of residence" option to the profile, then create a stats graph based on the results... but there would probably still be a lot of people leaving it unassigned :roll:

Posted: 08 Nov 2004, 17:32
by Loki
markfiend wrote: ...can I pretend to be a Martian immigrant please?
Why pretend? We knew that anyway ...

I'm really Jane Seymour.

Posted: 08 Nov 2004, 18:02
by rian
Quiff Boy wrote:i could look into adding a "country of residence" option to the profile, then create a stats graph based on the results... but there would probably still be a lot of people leaving it unassigned :roll:
Probably...

but, still, a good idea

Posted: 08 Nov 2004, 18:11
by lucretia
Hey I'm originally from Yorkshire which I'm trying to keep quiet but without much success. Both my Grandad's had a lot of Welsh and also some distant Scottish roots (which might explain how I can say Llanfyr ... etc etc. and go all weepy when I hear "David of the White Rock" sung by the Welsh Male Choir :oops: ) One of my Grandma's was born in India of Scottish descent and I've got distant cousins in Canada and also Australia ... amazing, I only found this out today - didn't realise I was such a pavement special :lol: :lol:
The Heartland forum, besides being a place to hang out when you're drunk, is indeed a portal to a higher level of consciousness and gateway to lofty philosophical musings into our place in the universe and the origins of mankind.
btw I'm sober but still having a good laugh here at my own expense.

Posted: 08 Nov 2004, 19:33
by Petseri
markfiend wrote:
Petseri wrote:Are we making diistictions between nationality and citizenship?
If so can I pretend to be a Martian immigrant please?
There is a distinction between nationality and citizenship. Sorbs live in Germany; Saami live in Finland, Sweden, Russia, and Norway; Khanti, Mansi, Komi, and dozens of other Finno-Ugric peoples live (still) within the Russian Federation. If I remember correctly, Soviet passports even included a separate space for nationality.

Granted, the lines often blur. Is someone's nationality Canadian or Québécois(e)? Do Czech refugees fleeing after Prague Spring and now in South Africa, Australia, or America consider themselves Czech still? Politically problems blur the lines further. Can someone be Catalan or only Spanish? Is Bosniak a nationality? :roll:

To answer your question, though, sure, go right ahead and call yourself a Martian. :D

Martin

Posted: 08 Nov 2004, 19:42
by pikkrong
Petseri wrote:
@ Indrek: did you ever realize that the Estonian word rääkima (for "to speak") comes from a Germanic source? :eek:

Martin
Yes, I know there are many loans from German in Estonian language but havn't thought about this particular example before.

Posted: 08 Nov 2004, 21:24
by Hojyuu-obi
I seem to remember reading in an article somewhere (some article/essay on the decline of German as a World language) that for a long time up untill approx. WWII the German language was the language of choice for intelligentsia, and the bourgoisie in Eastern Europe & Russia. Ironically this was largely due to Jewish people!