Heartland

Quiff Boy wrote:

ruffers wrote:

Quiff Boy wrote: in ashton-under-lyne awaiting

Nothing extra to say re Ian Curtis RIP, but Ashton Under Lyne is where I was born and raised....

blimey! where abouts?

i'm from oldham. my mate is from ashton & currently lives in droylesden. and the ex mrs qb is from ashton.

center of the world innit?

Born Ashton General 1967
Lived Hartshead Estate -> 1982, School Ashton Grammar
1982, moved darn sarf innit.

It's the centre of a world certainly.....

I fear I am derailing the thread [/u]

tOM wrote:

Obviousman wrote:
Because, the Joy Division name had something to do with prostitution too, didn't it?

Yep, the name "Joy Division" came from the german "Lust Division" which were the prostitues in the camps of the nazi's (or am I wrong ?). Don't know if they were jewish and forced to prostitute (looks more like rape then ?) themselves, or if it were prostitues who came to the camps to please the nazi's. And I even don't know if it was in WW I or WW II. There will probably some info on the net about it...

Just to make one thing clear: In WWI nazis were not yet invented.

If only the allies had bombed the art colleges instead of military targets

Motz wrote:If only the allies had bombed the art colleges instead of military targets

But "Mr H" was never accepted to one, which is why many historians believe this set him off on his hate-fuelled resentment towards the rest of non-aryan society. (He hated Bauhaus in particular!)

I seem to recall a t-shirt worn by Barry Andrews in his XTC days that read 'I've never been to art school' and as much as I love Mr. Andrews' work with Shriekback, I must reply 'I have'.

James Blast wrote:I seem to recall a t-shirt worn by Barry Andrews in his XTC days that read 'I've never been to art school' and as much as I love Mr. Andrews' work with Shriekback, I must reply 'I have'.

there seem to be rather a few of us here who have

Big Si wrote:(Sorry Francis, but I'm often shocked at the things that I can remember!)

No need to apologise, Big Man. I would really like to know if anyone here saw them/ knew of them before he died. James? John? Any other old gits out there? There was a big hullabaloo in the music press after he died and Closer was released (Love Will tear Us Apart was re-released?) and a mate of mine started banging on about them and dragged me in. And then everyone seemed to be citing them as influences. I'm a cynic you see.

And Tony Wilson was always a cnut anyway.

Francis wrote:

Big Si wrote:(Sorry Francis, but I'm often shocked at the things that I can remember!)

No need to apologise, Big Man. I would really like to know if anyone here saw them/ knew of them before he died. James? John? Any other old gits out there? There was a big hullabaloo in the music press after he died and Closer was released (Love Will tear Us Apart was re-released?) and a mate of mine started banging on about them and dragged me in. And then everyone seemed to be citing them as influences. I'm a cynic you see.

And Tony Wilson was always a cnut anyway.

I know Factory showed the video for Love Will Tear Us Apart on Tiswas (I was 6 and my Big Sista would have been 7 at the time) so I'd probably seen and heard this, but am too young to remember.......

Big Si wrote:I was 6

Checking your profile, that would have been after he died then. Sherlock Holmes has nothing on me.

Francis wrote:

Big Si wrote:(Sorry Francis, but I'm often shocked at the things that I can remember!)

No need to apologise, Big Man. I would really like to know if anyone here saw them/ knew of them before he died. James? John? Any other old gits out there? There was a big hullabaloo in the music press after he died and Closer was released (Love Will tear Us Apart was re-released?) and a mate of mine started banging on about them and dragged me in. And then everyone seemed to be citing them as influences. I'm a cynic you see.

And Tony Wilson was always a cnut anyway.

Is an old gittess - never saw them, as I never really got my act into gear (and they never came to Lincoln ) And I certainly remember I knew of them before he died. You didn't have to come from Manchester to have heard of them. Finger on the pulse and all that Was revising fer me O levels when I heard of his demise.

Oh by the way....it's also 25 years since Mad Max was released

Debaser wrote:Oh by the way....it's also 25 years since Mad Max was released

I'm a Mad Max 2 man myself. Saw the first one later. Thought it was a bit lame by comparison.

BOLLOX to that!

Love and Kisses
Debaser

Quiff Boy wrote:

indeed

and 5 years ago today i was at the witchwood in ashton-under-lyne awaiting my 2nd fave band the chameleons playing together live, after nearly 15 years apart

they dedicated one of their songs to mr curtis' memory. i cant remember which one though because i was still reeling after the intro to "swamp thing"

you lucky bastard!i'ld love to have seen the highly underrated chameleons,what are they up to now?and was "in shreds" ever put out on an album?i've got a near-terminal version taped off of some b-side 18 odd years ago but i've never seen it on anything else.

Debaser wrote:Oh by the way....it's also 25 years since Mad Max was released

already?

eastmidswhizzkid wrote:

Quiff Boy wrote:

indeed

and 5 years ago today i was at the witchwood in ashton-under-lyne awaiting my 2nd fave band the chameleons playing together live, after nearly 15 years apart

they dedicated one of their songs to mr curtis' memory. i cant remember which one though because i was still reeling after the intro to "swamp thing"

you lucky bastard!i'ld love to have seen the highly underrated chameleons,what are they up to now?and was "in shreds" ever put out on an album?i've got a near-terminal version taped off of some b-side 18 odd years ago but i've never seen it on anything else.

up to? collectively not much as they fell out again

individually? a few things... more details on mik's website: http://www.thechameleons.com/

in shreds was on the cd versions "the fan and the bellows" (compilation of early singles), "what does anything mean? basically" (as a bonus track) and also on "return of the roughnecks" (the best of...)

2nd best band on the world

Quiff Boy wrote:2nd best band on the world

Hard to argue...sorely underrated.

nice one Quiffster;i've not seen acopy of "......(basically)" with it on(its not on mine)but i've not even come across the other two.i'ld say i should get out more but i bet you do all your shopping on t'pooter anyway!(still trying to talk mrswhizzkid into letting me have free rein on her amazon account-god knows she buys enough crap;"slash's snakepit"-i ask you!)

eastmidswhizzkid wrote:nice one Quiffster;i've not seen acopy of "......(basically)" with it on(its not on mine)but i've not even come across the other two.i'ld say i should get out more but i bet you do all your shopping on t'pooter anyway!(still trying to talk mrswhizzkid into letting me have free rein on her amazon account-god knows she buys enough crap;"slash's snakepit"-i ask you!)

http://www.townsend-records.co.uk/multi ... chameleons

And don't forget - http://www.gemm.com/c/search.pl?currenc ... Go%21.y=11

cheers dudes:a sensible outfit that accepts real money!much obliged