Heartland

Though I've never really cared for Kylie or her music, I do feel genuinely bad for her - my mom's gone through the nightmare of breast cancer twice; one of her sisters and one of her cousins battled the disease for years, and ultimately lost. I guess I'm kind of waiting around for my turn...

@ zaltys7: I'll keep you in my thoughts, and I hope your prognosis is good. *Hugs*

Quiff Boy wrote:a "gay icon" is someone that is an iconic figure to gay people.

Are we talking gay men or women.

Quiff Boy wrote:ergo a "straight icon" would be someone that iconic to straight people.

Which she is as well, surely. So I repeat my question:

What's the difference? Is one preferable to the other?

Quiff Boy wrote:what did they teach at school in them days?

You mean when men were men and gay meant happy?

And if 'bent' is politically incorrect these days, why isn't 'straight'?

Francis wrote:

Quiff Boy wrote:a "gay icon" is someone that is an iconic figure to gay people.

Are we talking gay men or women.

Quiff Boy wrote:ergo a "straight icon" would be someone that iconic to straight people.

Which she is as well, surely. So I repeat my question:

What's the difference? Is one preferable to the other?

Quiff Boy wrote:what did they teach at school in them days?

You mean when men were men and gay meant happy?

And if 'bent' is politically incorrect these days, why isn't 'straight'?

"What's the difference? Is one preferable to the other?"

yes. "straight icons" as you call them dont have to be in the judy garland mold

"And if 'bent' is politically incorrect these days, why isn't 'straight'?"

its about ownership. generalising massively, again. gay people are ok with with being called gay. bent has yet to be adopted by the gay community.

straight people tend not to mind being called straight. ist better than being the opposite to gay: miserable

unless you are goffix though

Some more militant gay activists do object to the word "straight" for heterosexuality because by implication they are "bent".

Quiff Boy wrote:yes. "straight icons" as you call them dont have to be in the judy garland mold

You'll have to explain that to me, I'm afraid.

markfiend wrote:Some more militant gay activists do object to the word "straight" for heterosexuality because by implication they are "bent".

And I object to it cos it suggests straight-laced, which implies boring.

Fcuk Kylie! one of our own is ill, I'm sending all the good vibes I can to zaltys/Paul, keep us posted when you can.

nail banged on head there, james

Mrs RicheyJames wrote:

markfiend wrote:Totally agree with you. Thousands of people a year die from this horrible disease. But no-one cares until it's someone famous? Sick.

IMHO it helps draw attention to this disease and therefore more people may become more aware of it than they were before.

emilystrange wrote:nail banged on head there, james

James Blast wrote:Fcuk Kylie! one of our own is ill, I'm sending all the good vibes I can to zaltys/Paul, keep us posted when you can.

He is right. Look after yerself Zalts.

Unless Kylie joins Heartland

James Blast wrote:Fcuk Kylie! one of our own is ill, I'm sending all the good vibes I can to zaltys/Paul, keep us posted when you can.

Good vibes to both, the disease is indiscriminate and so am I

I'll join in with sending good vibes and fervent hopes to Paul - good luck.

Don't really care about Kylie, except in the same way as one feels sorry for anyone facing such an illness (but........wouldn't want my pictures splattered all over the papers whilst undergoing treatment).

Black Alice wrote:(but........wouldn't want my pictures splattered all over the papers whilst undergoing treatment).

good point Alice but then I doubt Paul has Kylie's millions
be strong my brother, we are rooting for you

James Blast wrote:

Black Alice wrote:(but........wouldn't want my pictures splattered all over the papers whilst undergoing treatment).

good point Alice but then I doubt Paul has Kylie's millions
be strong my brother, we are rooting for you

Totally agree and hear hear

Best wishes to you, Zaltys... good to know our public serivces don't screw everyone over.

Good luck mate.

Zaltys best wishes mate.

i guess you'll have radio and chemo too

the wife of a mate at work is just going through that having had a lump removed two months ago. she seems fine, so i hope you are too.

take care

Best wishes from me too, Zaltys.

Thanks everyone

Wil keep you informed.

Paul

ruffers wrote:

Black Biscuit wrote:Just when I thought Kylie Minogue was perfect proof that people can still be young (or even cute, still) in their 30s, news broke today that she has breast cancer.

So she's now older is she? Or less cute?

Or am I missing something?

--- Perhaps my initial point is that time does indeed catch up with us. And ageing, like parenthood, can be a serious reality check.

I am not a Kylie fan, but if her illness brings attention to the disease, it can have a positive legacy.

I was once riding high on a career. Then, one day, I saw a doco on Africa. Suddenly everything inside me went quiet. It was as though the entire world had stopped. The experience touched my heart and I searched deep inside myself for an answer as to what I could do to help.

I'm back now, re-launching my career. The reason you haven't heard from me for the last ten years is coz I've been busy savin' the lions and tigers.

Black Biscuit wrote:Just when I thought Kylie Minogue was perfect proof that people can still be young (or even cute, still) in their 30s...

And what am *I*, chopped liver?!

see other thread..

Paul/zaltys7 went into hospital tonight
good luck my Brother

Good Luck, Paul/zaltys - we're all thinking of you xx

best wishes to zaltys for a speedy recovery