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Posted: 10 Aug 2005, 22:05
by Johnny M
And the one above. :lol: :lol:

Posted: 10 Aug 2005, 22:08
by Johnny M
Or even previously d00mie. :urff:

Posted: 10 Aug 2005, 22:10
by Thea
'Ang on... I'm lost! :urff:

Posted: 10 Aug 2005, 22:11
by Johnny M
d00mw0lf wrote:'Ang on... I'm lost! :urff:
My post moved us onto page 2 so the one above was the one previously. :P

I think. :urff:

Posted: 10 Aug 2005, 22:19
by aims
Something like that ;)

Posted: 10 Aug 2005, 22:41
by boudicca
timsinister wrote:Cyber-Siren!
RAWR! :twisted: :kiss:

Posted: 10 Aug 2005, 22:44
by lazarus corporation
boudicca wrote:
timsinister wrote:Cyber-Siren!
RAWR! :twisted: :kiss:
as in "Police Siren"? :innocent: :lol:

Posted: 10 Aug 2005, 22:46
by boudicca
lazarus corporation wrote:
boudicca wrote:
timsinister wrote:Cyber-Siren!
RAWR! :twisted: :kiss:
as in "Police Siren"? :innocent: :lol:
Yeah well, maybe less "RAWR", more... "NEE-NAW!" ;D :lol:

:urff: I need a lie down.

Posted: 10 Aug 2005, 23:33
by timsinister
boudicca wrote: :urff: I need a lie down.
You've never needed to before. Are you getting old? :innocent:

Posted: 11 Aug 2005, 00:33
by boudicca
timsinister wrote:
boudicca wrote: :urff: I need a lie down.
You've never needed to before. Are you getting old? :innocent:
Utterly bastard knackered. ;D :von:

Posted: 11 Aug 2005, 08:13
by timsinister
boudicca wrote:
Utterly bastard knackered. ;D :von:
:lol:
At only half eleven, too! You'd better get some training in before t'invasion starts! :von:

Posted: 11 Aug 2005, 08:43
by Debaser
Debaser wrote:I seem to remember they were supporting someone I went to see this year....was in the bar. Hey ho :D :D :D :D

Anyone like to remember who it was I'd gone to see?
Remembered, all by myself.....

Doves @ Rock City in March. STORMIN' gig - I do love the Doves.

Posted: 11 Aug 2005, 09:49
by ruffers
Debaser wrote:
Debaser wrote:I seem to remember they were supporting someone I went to see this year....was in the bar. Hey ho :D :D :D :D

Anyone like to remember who it was I'd gone to see?
Remembered, all by myself.....

Doves @ Rock City in March. STORMIN' gig - I do love the Doves.
And almost on topic - excellent :innocent:

Posted: 11 Aug 2005, 12:22
by Debaser
One tries

I suppose you noticed I had to reply to myself though :lol: :lol:

Posted: 12 Aug 2005, 09:19
by ruffers
Widdecombe in yesterday's Guardian, the woman talks sense.

"Apparently, they consider the word fat to be deeply insulting. Why? Is the word thin insulting? Is short insulting? Or tall? Or bald? Insult is in the ear of the listener. Statements of fact cannot be insulting unless you feel that the label applied indicates some failing, moral or otherwise, in yourself. If someone calls you fat and you are fat, then it will be hurtful only if you feel you should not be fat.

Clearly, then, the Magic Numbers are embarrassed by their appearance. They are not happy to be fat."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/news/sto ... 91,00.html

Posted: 12 Aug 2005, 12:09
by boudicca
timsinister wrote:You'd better get some training in before t'invasion starts! :von:
What should this entail? :innocent:

Posted: 12 Aug 2005, 12:23
by markfiend
Anne Widdecombe wrote:Apparently, they consider the word fat to be deeply insulting. Why? Is the word thin insulting? Is short insulting? Or tall? Or bald? Insult is in the ear of the listener. Statements of fact cannot be insulting unless you feel that the label applied indicates some failing, moral or otherwise, in yourself. If someone calls you fat and you are fat, then it will be hurtful only if you feel you should not be fat.

Clearly, then, the Magic Numbers are embarrassed by their appearance. They are not happy to be fat.
To be frank, bollocks.

So if I call Anne Widdecombe a dried up Tory virgin, she wouldn't be insulted? She has just restated the "sticks and stones" saying and dressed it up. However, we know that words, psychological attacks, can be extremely harmful.

But that's by-the-by. The thing that p!sses me off about the whole situation is that Richard Bacon denied that his comment was meant to be a "fat-gag", which quite frankly is so big a pile of bull$hit as to be an insult to people's intelligence.

Posted: 12 Aug 2005, 12:30
by Dark
Well, I read it as him saying it in conjuction with "big", referring to the metaphorical melting-pot of talent.
Not the band.

Posted: 12 Aug 2005, 12:31
by aims
Maybe he said "phat" and everyone misheard him? :lol:

Posted: 12 Aug 2005, 12:45
by Silver_Owl
Motz wrote:Maybe he said "phat" and everyone misheard him? :lol:
:lol: :lol: :lol:

I heard Les Carter (from Carter The Unstoppable...) on Radio 5 t'other night and they were asking him for his views on it. He was made famous after Rugby tackling 'Pip' Schofield on the Smash Hits awards. - Scholfield had made several caustic comments about Carter's lack of talent.

As the presenter on Radio 5 said, it would have been hilarious if the fat bastard from the Magic numbers had done the same to Smokey Bacon.

Posted: 12 Aug 2005, 12:46
by timsinister
boudicca wrote:
timsinister wrote:You'd better get some training in before t'invasion starts! :von:
What should this entail? :innocent:
Start drinking with Blast and the lads constantly until I get there. That'll set you right. :twisted:

Posted: 12 Aug 2005, 12:56
by boudicca
timsinister wrote:
boudicca wrote:
timsinister wrote:You'd better get some training in before t'invasion starts! :von:
What should this entail? :innocent:
Start drinking with Blast and the lads constantly until I get there. That'll set you right. :twisted:
Copious amounts of al-co-hol and chatting about prog rock isn't gonna keep me awake...! :lol:

Posted: 12 Aug 2005, 13:17
by ruffers
markfiend wrote: So if I call Anne Widdecombe a dried up Tory virgin, she wouldn't be insulted? She has just restated the "sticks and stones" saying and dressed it up. However, we know that words, psychological attacks, can be extremely harmful.

But that's by-the-by. The thing that p!sses me off about the whole situation is that Richard Bacon denied that his comment was meant to be a "fat-gag", which quite frankly is so big a pile of bull$hit as to be an insult to people's intelligence.
Clearly it was a fat gag as you say, and at best it appears to have been untactful... Maybe he though the mike was off or something I dunno. Actually you'd know more about this, this whole "off the record" business we get when politicians say stuff they shouldn't, is there a basis for that? It seems ludicrous when we hear a defence of a comment from an MP which consists of "I thought it was off the record" - did you say it or didn't you?

Widdecombe rewrites the sticks and stones fairly well. True, comments can be harmful and she's been on the end of an awful lot in her time I'm sure being in such a public position. The Magic Numbers have been, and will continue to be, although they've been known to make fat comments about them. Which leads me to the conclusion this is just to drum up a bit of publicity. And it's worked.

Posted: 12 Aug 2005, 13:48
by markfiend
AFAIK the "off the record" thing with politicians tends to be an MP effectively saying to a journalist "Hey, here's something you might like to know (as you're a mate) but you can't print it, or at least if you do it didn't come from me, OK?" sort of thing.

I don't know, maybe you're right and the storming off thing is a publicity stunt. I don't think it was an accident though; Richard Bacon's known for his "cheeky comment" type delivery. Personally I've always thought he's just a cnut but there you go.

As for the "fat gag" thing it comes down to human nature doesn't it; we all make cracks based on other people's appearance from time to time even though we know it's a shallow thing to do :? Yeah, sure, in an ideal world people would just judge The Magic Numbers on the quality of their music, but this isn't an ideal world.

Also, plenty of women who aren't fat think that they are; it's a pretty nasty thing to say about someone who may be sensitive about their self-image.

This is all pretty much exactly the opposite of what I was arguing on Rosalie's "Fat Fairies" thread, but hey, whoever said I had to be consistent? :lol:

Posted: 12 Aug 2005, 13:51
by Quiff Boy
markfiend wrote:in an ideal world people would just judge The Magic Numbers on the quality of their music
thats them f**ked then :lol:
markfiend wrote:whoever said I had to be consistent? :lol:
ba-dum, tsssshhhhh! :lol: :innocent: