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Posted: 30 Sep 2005, 10:23
by markfiend
James Blast wrote:I think Mr. fiend and myself were the first two brave souls to put their heads above the parapet re. YCBTO

It Rocks!

here endeth the lesson
Aye. ;D

Posted: 30 Sep 2005, 10:40
by Dark
I don't like Ribbons as much as WYDSM. And even then, I prefer the single remix.

Posted: 30 Sep 2005, 14:05
by MadameButterfly
YCBTO actually tickled my fancy as in the lyrics....something about "running her fingers through my hair" quoted from memory so may not be an offical quote but that made me laugh now!! Von has no more hair on his head so which hair should we be thinking :urff: kidding!

I have the cd *A Slight Case Of Overbombing* - Greatest hits volume one and More is on there too. (Are there different versions of more moving through the era's?)

@ Dark - what is WYDSM? Sorry another stupid ? I am sure.

Posted: 30 Sep 2005, 14:08
by Quiff Boy
so

When you can give me head
And run your fingers through my hair

becomes

When you can give me hair
And run your fingers across my head

:lol:

Posted: 30 Sep 2005, 14:09
by Quiff Boy
"WYDSM" = "when you dont see me"

from the "vision thing" album, as is "more"

"more" has a 7" and a longer album version, along with a couple of dancey remixes called "power mix" and "groove mix" - both of which sound very similar to each other.

Posted: 30 Sep 2005, 14:15
by MadameButterfly
Thank-you my favourite god :lol: for the answers.

Posted: 30 Sep 2005, 17:28
by Dark
When You Don't See Me was released as a single in Germany, with a Sisters patch in some of them, the b-sides being live versions of Ribbons and Something Fast.

The single remix was also put on the TOL92 single.

Overbombing constantly annoys me. I fail to see their logic in track choices.
Why put VT on it? If it was on the a-side of TOL92, then I can understand it, but then why didn't they put Body Electric on, as it was on the a-side of Body And Soul.
Also, they put Detonation Boulevard on it, even though that was a promo single, and yet they didn't put I Was Wrong on it, even though that was another promo single.

Posted: 30 Sep 2005, 20:21
by ruffers
Dark wrote:When You Don't See Me was released as a single in Germany, with a Sisters patch in some of them, the b-sides being live versions of Ribbons and Something Fast.

The single remix was also put on the TOL92 single.

Overbombing constantly annoys me. I fail to see their logic in track choices.
Why put VT on it? If it was on the a-side of TOL92, then I can understand it, but then why didn't they put Body Electric on, as it was on the a-side of Body And Soul.
Also, they put Detonation Boulevard on it, even though that was a promo single, and yet they didn't put I Was Wrong on it, even though that was another promo single.
Because they didn't want to.


And Quiffy :lol: :lol: :lol:

Posted: 30 Sep 2005, 20:35
by ruffers
Dark wrote:I don't like Ribbons as much as WYDSM. And even then, I prefer the single remix.
Each to their own, but I have to conclude you have recently received a bang on the head.

Posted: 30 Sep 2005, 20:40
by James Blast
I think Ribbons is turgid, but what do I know...

Posted: 30 Sep 2005, 21:13
by Dark
It was meant to be a-sides to all of the post-WEA singles. Hence why Body Electric and I Was Wrong should be there.

Posted: 30 Sep 2005, 21:43
by eastmidswhizzkid
the Body and Soul 12" version of Body Electric wasn't an a-side -it was an extra track on the 12" only (which happenend to be on the a-side).it isn't on the Body and Soul 7";which has Train as the flip-side.

and although i know what you mean,they aren't actually post WEA releases.

Posted: 30 Sep 2005, 22:06
by MadameButterfly
Men and technical talk.... :roll:

Now I am lost...well done... :evil:

Serious question again....More ....there must be two versions of this surely...which ever era they belong too. The female voice on the cd I have which era does that fall under? And another stupid question maybe ... do the era's refer to the time music was recordered relating to the years or according to which band members were part of Sisters in whichever years? Do you understand what I am trying to understand?

Posted: 30 Sep 2005, 22:47
by Dark
eastmidswhizzkid wrote:the Body and Soul 12" version of Body Electric wasn't an a-side -it was an extra track on the 12" only (which happenend to be on the a-side).it isn't on the Body and Soul 7";which has Train as the flip-side.

and although i know what you mean,they aren't actually post WEA releases.
Exactly my point about Vision Thing. The 7" has TOL (a-side) and IWW (b-side).

In fact, reading the net, it seems VT's remix was on the b-side of the 12", not the a-side.

So it shouldn't be there. At all. It is not by any means a WEA-era (which is what I meant to say, not post-WEA, unless you take that to mean post-WEA-signing) a-side, whereas Body Electric was.

Posted: 30 Sep 2005, 23:48
by James Blast
I've lost interest now.
MB, PM me if you want the More mixes, and another copy of YCBTO

Posted: 01 Oct 2005, 00:34
by Drsisters
inside info.... shhhhh...... 8)
Been talking to a previous band member from the vision thing era. During the studio sessions in Denmark Mr Eldritch, recorded so many versions of the songs whom ended up on the vision thing, so he could fill 3 albums just with different mixes :lol:
on most of the mixes only eldritch could hear the difference between them. There are a tape out somewhere in someones collection who contains some of the remixed tracks from vision thing.

tracklist :

Ribbons/Detonation Boulevard/Detonation Boulevard/More/Dr Jeep/Ribbons/Detonation Boulevard/More/Vision Thing/When You Don´t See Me/More


Never heard the tape though :cry:

Posted: 01 Oct 2005, 06:27
by Silence is platinum
Noone mentioned "something fast" :roll: :roll:

Posted: 01 Oct 2005, 09:23
by Obviousman
Drsisters wrote:inside info.... shhhhh...... 8)
Been talking to a previous band member from the vision thing era. During the studio sessions in Denmark Mr Eldritch, recorded so many versions of the songs whom ended up on the vision thing, so he could fill 3 albums just with different mixes :lol:
on most of the mixes only eldritch could hear the difference between them. There are a tape out somewhere in someones collection who contains some of the remixed tracks from vision thing.

tracklist :

Ribbons/Detonation Boulevard/Detonation Boulevard/More/Dr Jeep/Ribbons/Detonation Boulevard/More/Vision Thing/When You Don´t See Me/More


Never heard the tape though :cry:
You just know there's a whole lot of stuff we did not get to hear yet out there :(

Would've surprised me if this hadn't been the case, look at the different Floodland demos and mixes (genuine or not) out there, but there's not a single one with VT-era songs :|

Posted: 01 Oct 2005, 10:17
by Quiff Boy
During the studio sessions in Denmark Mr Eldritch, recorded so many versions of the songs whom ended up on the vision thing, so he could fill 3 albums just with different mixes

on most of the mixes only eldritch could hear the difference between them. There are a tape out somewhere in someones collection who contains some of the remixed tracks from vision thing.
aye, tony james said as much in his heartland interview :?

Posted: 01 Oct 2005, 11:03
by Dark
Oh yeah.. and he should have put When You Don't See Me (Remix) on Overbombing too.

What a forgetful bastard. :lol:

Posted: 02 Oct 2005, 02:12
by Ozpat
James Blast wrote:I've lost interest now.
MB, PM me if you want the More mixes, and another copy of YCBTO
Is there more than 1 version of YCBTO then?

Posted: 02 Oct 2005, 12:57
by James Blast
not AFAIK

Posted: 07 Oct 2005, 12:13
by James
Drsisters wrote:inside info.... shhhhh...... 8)
Been talking to a previous band member from the vision thing era. During the studio sessions in Denmark Mr Eldritch, recorded so many versions of the songs whom ended up on the vision thing, so he could fill 3 albums just with different mixes :lol:
on most of the mixes only eldritch could hear the difference between them. There are a tape out somewhere in someones collection who contains some of the remixed tracks from vision thing.

tracklist :

Ribbons/Detonation Boulevard/Detonation Boulevard/More/Dr Jeep/Ribbons/Detonation Boulevard/More/Vision Thing/When You Don´t See Me/More


Never heard the tape though :cry:
I have this tape from a reliable source but I assumed it was a fake. It's muddy and hissy and sounds identical to vision thing. The cassette originally came from England in the early 1990s from a mail order that was also selling fake this corrosion-torch-colours demos.

Posted: 07 Oct 2005, 12:48
by Ozpat
James wrote:
Drsisters wrote:inside info.... shhhhh...... 8)
Been talking to a previous band member from the vision thing era. During the studio sessions in Denmark Mr Eldritch, recorded so many versions of the songs whom ended up on the vision thing, so he could fill 3 albums just with different mixes :lol:
on most of the mixes only eldritch could hear the difference between them. There are a tape out somewhere in someones collection who contains some of the remixed tracks from vision thing.

tracklist :

Ribbons/Detonation Boulevard/Detonation Boulevard/More/Dr Jeep/Ribbons/Detonation Boulevard/More/Vision Thing/When You Don´t See Me/More


Never heard the tape though :cry:
I have this tape from a reliable source but I assumed it was a fake. It's muddy and hissy and sounds identical to vision thing. The cassette originally came from England in the early 1990s from a mail order that was also selling fake this corrosion-torch-colours demos.
Can you hear a difference between the 2 Detonation Boulevard songs on that tape?

Posted: 12 Oct 2005, 18:16
by MadameButterfly
Ozpat wrote:
James wrote:
Drsisters wrote:inside info.... shhhhh...... 8)
Been talking to a previous band member from the vision thing era. During the studio sessions in Denmark Mr Eldritch, recorded so many versions of the songs whom ended up on the vision thing, so he could fill 3 albums just with different mixes :lol:
on most of the mixes only eldritch could hear the difference between them. There are a tape out somewhere in someones collection who contains some of the remixed tracks from vision thing.

tracklist :

Ribbons/Detonation Boulevard/Detonation Boulevard/More/Dr Jeep/Ribbons/Detonation Boulevard/More/Vision Thing/When You Don´t See Me/More


Never heard the tape though :cry:
I have this tape from a reliable source but I assumed it was a fake. It's muddy and hissy and sounds identical to vision thing. The cassette originally came from England in the early 1990s from a mail order that was also selling fake this corrosion-torch-colours demos.
Can you hear a difference between the 2 Detonation Boulevard songs on that tape?
And if you still have the tape can a copy be made? PM me if it can....at this point anything on recordings from *unknown* sources are of interest to me. Thanks