Heartland

Doesn't look like there's any contractual obligation to do something.

Cadiz newsletter just in via email, says (beneath a thumbnail pic of the Gift album cover)

"We're working on it... we really are...trust us..."

Yep, just got that as well. At least they're acknowledging it's still out there... I was expecting it to sink without a trace!

northwalesstokie wrote: ↑05 Mar 2021, 14:55 Thanks for the welcome and the info. I did email Cadiz records about a reissue and their reply made me chuckle.... "Hi yes, still planned. Just waiting for Mr Eldritch to decide to actually get moving to do something"

Nice job. So that's not happening.

But maybe he's just waiting until he's done with new songs, and on that front he's quite busy!

If it had the Fatboy Slim remix.......

Cadiz email today about other stuff ends with...


The Sisterhood - Gift
Wer'e working on it....we really are.. trust us...

ruffers wrote: ↑01 Apr 2021, 21:26 Cadiz email today about other stuff ends with...


The Sisterhood - Gift
Wer'e working on it....we really are.. trust us...

Yeah that’s been there for months......MONTHS. This is dead in the water

Maybe someone should show Cadiz the BBC sessions stuff that has come out digitally and the soon to be Record Store Day release.
Maybe it will incentivise them?

I find it just as painful watching the 'faith' drain from newer converts. Masochism for the Masses.

Same as it ever was, you get used to it. Have a listen to 'Vision Thing', that's always amusing.

Moderate Mick wrote: ↑12 Apr 2021, 13:11 Maybe someone should show Cadiz the BBC sessions stuff that has come out digitally and the soon to be Record Store Day release.
Maybe it will incentivise them?

I assume AE sees some money from the BBC session releases (both digital and limited LP)? And I assume the label (Warner) was the driving force behind the release?

For heaven's sake, can they release the damn BBC sessions on Amazon.com in the USA? I'm sitting here with my money, I am tired of subpar bootleg recordings and YouTube. I am more than happy to OWN the music!

Electrochrome wrote: ↑12 Apr 2021, 16:07

Moderate Mick wrote: ↑12 Apr 2021, 13:11 Maybe someone should show Cadiz the BBC sessions stuff that has come out digitally and the soon to be Record Store Day release.
Maybe it will incentivise them?

I assume AE sees some money from the BBC session releases (both digital and limited LP)?

I'm not sure he will. Didn't he flog the rights to the songs back when "Some Girls.." was released? In which case he'll get nowt now.

I'd be surprised if Von sees any cash from anything that happens on a streaming platform or in a record shop. I think there's a reason that he's toured so relentlessly for the last 20 years and it's unlikely to be because he likes the buffet breakfasts in Travel Inns.

To my knowledge the only thing he kept rights to was the Reptile House stuff

I thought he sold the master rights, not the publishing rights? So he has no control over what gets re-released but he does get still get the publishing income as songwriter which would include physical releases, streams etc.

czuczu wrote: ↑13 Apr 2021, 21:51 I thought he sold the master rights, not the publishing rights? So he has no control over what gets re-released but he does get still get the publishing income as songwriter which would include physical releases, streams etc.

Yes that's what I thought too

Matches what Wayne was saying in his book about switching the songwriting credits for Blood Money and B&S - I got the impression he still sees the occasional tuppence for that. (although not the mega millions that B&S generates!)

Yeah, the old 'b' side credit will be nowhere near as 'lucrative' as in days of yore. Amazing foresight by the devious overlord.

Todashi wrote: ↑13 Apr 2021, 10:38 I'd be surprised if Von sees any cash from anything that happens on a streaming platform or in a record shop. I think there's a reason that he's toured so relentlessly for the last 20 years and it's unlikely to be because he likes the buffet breakfasts in Travel Inns.

As much as I like Spotify, I don't think many musicians actually make any money out of it (and streaming services in general). Julianne Regen once posted on Facebook that she'd just received a royalty cheque for something daft like fifty pence (I can't find the original quote sadly) for a gazillion streams of "Martha's Harbour"

ribbons69 wrote: ↑15 Apr 2021, 09:05

Todashi wrote: ↑13 Apr 2021, 10:38 I'd be surprised if Von sees any cash from anything that happens on a streaming platform or in a record shop. I think there's a reason that he's toured so relentlessly for the last 20 years and it's unlikely to be because he likes the buffet breakfasts in Travel Inns.

As much as I like Spotify, I don't think many musicians actually make any money out of it (and streaming services in general). Julianne Regen once posted on Facebook that she'd just received a royalty cheque for something daft like fifty pence (I can't find the original quote sadly) for a gazillion streams of "Martha's Harbour"

This is true. The streaming model is a disgrace.

I wonder how much they got for *that* Top Of The Pops appearance

markfiend wrote: ↑15 Apr 2021, 09:27 I wonder how much they got for *that* Top Of The Pops appearance

If only the saintly Ms Regan got repeat fees with the slew of 80's review shows infesting UK television at the moment.

czuczu wrote: ↑13 Apr 2021, 21:51 I thought he sold the master rights, not the publishing rights? So he has no control over what gets re-released but he does get still get the publishing income as songwriter which would include physical releases, streams etc.

I believe you're exactly right, good summary. Indeed, if he had the publishing rights, we'd never even see reissues.

Pista wrote: ↑15 Apr 2021, 09:10

ribbons69 wrote: ↑15 Apr 2021, 09:05

Todashi wrote: ↑13 Apr 2021, 10:38 I'd be surprised if Von sees any cash from anything that happens on a streaming platform or in a record shop. I think there's a reason that he's toured so relentlessly for the last 20 years and it's unlikely to be because he likes the buffet breakfasts in Travel Inns.

As much as I like Spotify, I don't think many musicians actually make any money out of it (and streaming services in general). Julianne Regen once posted on Facebook that she'd just received a royalty cheque for something daft like fifty pence (I can't find the original quote sadly) for a gazillion streams of "Martha's Harbour"

This is true. The streaming model is a disgrace.

For artists it's a complete joke, and even for Spotify...how long did it even take them to turn any kind of profit? Somehow the stock is trading close to $300/share!

Swinnow wrote: ↑15 Apr 2021, 09:31 If only the saintly Ms Regan got repeat fees with the slew of 80's review shows infesting UK television at the moment.

from what she was saying to me (and others) Julianne gets fuck all.

Here’s a thought, if everyone who hates Spotify actually stopped using it maybe, just maybe, they’d lose a ton of users, their stock would plummet and the might die and go away. But hey, laziness rules.