Posted: 04 Dec 2012, 23:42
yea but w2k wasn't really targeted for the consumer market IIRC - kind of a bridge between windows NT and XP. At that time most consumer PCs were bundled with Me - poor customers^^
I have to deal with misc. systems business-wise but still prefer windows 7 for my private computers (except my NAS server running some sort of FreeBSD). All in all I'm more in to applications/3rd party stuff, sometimes gaming and as long as the OS is solid, stable and not loosing performance over time I don't really care what brand or version it is. I know a few people with MAcBooks and mostly booting M$ OS ....other people prefer MacOS or true Geek independent UNIX derivates (linux projects...) - I think it's not amportant as long as it fits to the needs.markfiend wrote:Seriously, when you've been using a *nix-based system for a while, moving back to Windows (disclosure: I've not tried Win8 yet) just feels crippled.
Right, if you're used to Unixoid systems and you have to use something like Windows, it's like someone's chopped off your hands. Then again, it depends on what you've got to do. Cygwin is no solution, imho, because it plain sucks.markfiend wrote:The thing is, I spend a lot of time at the command-line. I struggle with cmd.exe on Windows because it's so different to the *nix terminal.
Jeez, the number of dead USB drives I've seen because of that...Quiff Boy wrote:it's no wonder most non-techie windows users just yank the bloody usb drive out, probably damaging the file system in the process because windows was updating it's FAT table
I always wonder if the design task of user interfaces at M$ has been assigned to people who are the least qualified for it, or so it always seems to me. Almost out of spite... making money without giving the users what they need, just because they can. OTOH, Apple isn't that much better either; it looks prettier, is a bit more streamlined but suffers from the same inflexibility, arbitrary pseudo-simplicity and the notion that the user is an idiot. Unfortunately, on the Linux/open source side, they have done little except imitating Windoze/Mac for the last decade or so, and so we end up with stuff like Gnome and KDE.Quiff Boy wrote: common tasks are obscured behind technical jargon names and several layers of right-clicking, while obscure, techie-centric tasks are front-and centre and given even more archaic un-user friendly names
So that's not what you're supposed to do then, huh?Quiff Boy wrote:
just yank the bloody usb drive out,
Not really no.Debaser wrote:So that's not what you're supposed to do then, huh?Quiff Boy wrote:
just yank the bloody usb drive out,
Yeah. I use XFCE. Together with Compiz for the eye-candy.nowayjose wrote:...we end up with stuff like Gnome and KDE.
I use KDE and I'm quite fond of it.markfiend wrote:Yeah. I use XFCE. Together with Compiz for the eye-candy.nowayjose wrote:...we end up with stuff like Gnome and KDE.
Ditto.Izzy HaveMercy wrote:Windows 3.11 and WinXP were the best IMO, I worked happily on both of them and did some nice production work under XP, but now, with Mac OSX Snow Leopard... hmm )
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Oh my heavens yes. I agree with all of this. I hate using Windows at work. I email documents to myself (because I know that I will lose a thumb drive) and even as simple a task as downloading them and printing them proves to be vastly more complicated than it should be. I've already pressed print, Microsoft: Why do I need to confirm for you that I really do want to print this document?Quiff Boy wrote:i use macs all day every day, and barely touch the mac terminal...
its the windows UI i hate. it actively fights against you to do what you want to achieve... it's like it wants you to spend so long dicking about with the fundamentals that you're not actually productive.
common tasks are obscured behind technical jargon names and several layers of right-clicking, while obscure, techie-centric tasks are front-and centre and given even more archaic un-user friendly names
don't even get be started on how you safely remove a usb drive on windows someone like my mum should never, ever be forced to right-click and open a device properties window just to remove a bloody thumb drive that her friend has given her with a document on...
that kind of usb pen drive sharing is such an obvious use-case, and has been for the last 5-10 years, in this day and age it shouldn't require 5 clicks (left and right) and a lot of technical jargon to navigate around, to do something a LOT of people do every single day.
what's wrong with treating like any other "removable device" (which is itself a horrid PC term) and having a bloody big EJECT button on the desktop, like Macs do?
it's no wonder most non-techie windows users just yank the bloody usb drive out, probably damaging the file system in the process because windows was updating it's FAT table
it's just so deeply flawed.. its amazing anyone ever gets anything meaningful done on one of the damned things.
Yeah, but the problem is, the current crop of hackers seem to prefer writing apps for smartphones and tablets (and thereby unraveling the open-source scene), and are not interested in free GUIs in the way people were in the 90ies, when the host of window managers proliferated because everyone wrote their own, or contributed to someone else's. And the old guard, who have the ability don't have time/interest anymore in that, either. So we're stuck.lazarus corporation wrote: Or write your own.
You don't... until you lose data.DocSommer wrote:TBH I don't know anybody before who considered this as some serious issue^^
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<h1>Latest update from <a href="http://twitter.com/markfiend">my Twitter feed</a>:</h1>
<h2><a href="http://twitter.com/markfiend/statuses/304159221711241216">Wed 20 Feb 2013 09:23:04</a>:</h2>
<p>Case sensitivity is IMPORTANT: Consider: "I′m going to help Uncle Jack off a horse" and "i′m going to help uncle jack off a horse"</p>
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<?php
class TestClass {
static function test_method($foo) {
global $x;
return str_replace('twitter', $x->scalar, $foo);
}
}
$x = (object) 'wibble';
ob_start(
function ($html) {
$pattern = '~(<a .*?href=["\'])([^"\']+)(["\'].*?>.*?</a>)~';
return preg_replace_callback(
$pattern,
function ($matches) {
$y = TestClass::test_method($matches[2]);
return $matches[1] . $y . $matches[3];
},
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);
}
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?>
<!DOCTYPE html>
<html lang="en">
<head>
<meta charset="UTF-8">
<title>Test for whether global variables work</title>
</head>
<body>
<article id="twitter">
<h1>Latest update from <a href="http://twitter.com/markfiend">my Twitter feed</a>:</h1>
<h2><a href="http://twitter.com/markfiend/statuses/304159221711241216">Wed 20 Feb 2013 09:23:04</a>:</h2>
<p>Case sensitivity is IMPORTANT: Consider: "I′m going to help Uncle Jack off a horse" and "i′m going to help uncle jack off a horse"</p>
</article>
</body>
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