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Pista wrote:Cornwall council tells village taxi firm they can't take the p!ss

more of the same....local councillors with fuck all else to do to justify their office.

On your marks. Get set. DIG!

the sound made by 2 black holes colliding to make a super-massive one: cosmic

Customs officials ask Red Hot Chilli Peppers to autograph CDs & photos.
Bonus: Metallica CDs & photos

Pista wrote:Customs officials ask Red Hot Chilli Peppers to autograph CDs & photos.
Bonus: Metallica CDs & photos

Nah, he actually the custom official is a superfan of metallica that knows even this that most not hardcore metallica fans ignore

France again....poor cunts. deepest and heartfelt sympathy to everyone affected.

Q: and children?
A: and children.

It's just beyond imagination how much blinded some people can be to do such horrific things.
Remember victims, forgot the one who did this!

I disagree on that, remember also who did this. I think he screamed all the time "Allahou akbar", correct?

eastmidswhizzkid wrote:France again....poor cunts. deepest and heartfelt sympathy to everyone affected.

Q: and children?
A: and children.

Yeah ... and this guy even had children himself ... ... must have felt extremely under wrong rule ...

iesus wrote:I disagree on that, remember also who did this. I think he screamed all the time "Allahou akbar", correct?

Not sure that's a sign - I yelled "Arbeit macht frei, motherfuckers!" at a group of the laziest designers I've ever had the misfortune to have to work with this afternoon, but I'm pretty sure that doesn't make me a nazi.

We all have bad temper moments here and there. I hope at least you will not use again that "Arbeit macht frei" phrase even as a joke to nazi convicts in hard labor.

EvilBastard wrote: Not sure that's a sign - I yelled "Arbeit macht frei, motherfuckers!" at a group of the laziest designers I've ever had the misfortune to have to work with this afternoon, but I'm pretty sure that doesn't make me a nazi.

Certainly not. I mean, it's not your fault that one can't get good design staff for a huge party rally. If they keep sucking, just do it yourself and send the lowlife to the front.

nowayjose wrote:

EvilBastard wrote: Not sure that's a sign - I yelled "Arbeit macht frei, motherfuckers!" at a group of the laziest designers I've ever had the misfortune to have to work with this afternoon, but I'm pretty sure that doesn't make me a nazi.

Certainly not. I mean, it's not your fault that one can't get good design staff for a huge party rally. If they keep sucking, just do it yourself and send the lowlife to the front.

sorry my sense of humour is dark as hell tonight.

iesus wrote:We all have bad temper moments here and there. I hope at least you will not use again that "Arbeit macht frei" phrase even as a joke to nazi convicts in hard labor.

Well now, you see, that brings up an interesting question. Certainly, the phrase "arbeit macht frei" comes loaded with dark connotations. But it is only an arrangement of three words which, on their own, have no such connotation. My dad would have agreed with the idea that "work sets you free" - not that he was a fan of nazism, rather he was a workaholic who felt strongly that there was an inherent nobility to work, no matter whether that was street-sweeping or brain surgery. I'm pretty sure that people in Germany had used the phrase before it gained its notoriety, so is it not perhaps time that we rehabilitated it? I think perhaps 70 years is long enough for us to be able to forgive it its past associations.
I'm not saying that we should ever forget what was done in those times, not at all. But maybe we need to stop beating up the language for it. Some time ago I was working for a company in Germany that wanted to compile a database to track the hours that people were working. In the flexitime system that the company had there was the concept of "core time", the hours when someone had to be in the office. In German this is referred to as "Kernzeit". So I build a database with a field in it to reflect the start and time times of this "core" time. Kernzeit being quite a long word, and with no real need to spell it out in full, I logically abbreviated it to "KZ" in the field name.

Germans will understand why this resulted in a rather uncomfortable conversation with my boss - apparently "KZ" is also how one refers to "Konzentrationslager", or concentration camp.

And yes, I probably meant there to be connotations to my use of "Arbeit macht frei". not that any of the badly-dressed poorly-informed woefully slipshod and self-obsessed millenials that they've hired as designers round my way would have got the reference. They'd probably have thought it was the name of a "curated" "artisinal" employment agency.

But to get to the point I was originally trying to make: shouting "Allah'u akhbar" doesn't make you a muslim (fundamentalist or otherwise) anymore than barking "Arbeit macht frei" makes me a nazi or saying "Oy vey" makes me jewish.

nowayjose wrote:

EvilBastard wrote: Not sure that's a sign - I yelled "Arbeit macht frei, motherfuckers!" at a group of the laziest designers I've ever had the misfortune to have to work with this afternoon, but I'm pretty sure that doesn't make me a nazi.

Certainly not. I mean, it's not your fault that one can't get good design staff for a huge party rally. If they keep sucking, just do it yourself and send the lowlife to the front.

Say what you like, but it's hard not to look at Speer's architecture or Riefenstahl's camera work and not be a little in awe of the minds that conceived them.

EvilBastard wrote:

iesus wrote:We all have bad temper moments here and there. I hope at least you will not use again that "Arbeit macht frei" phrase even as a joke to nazi convicts in hard labor.

Well now, you see, that brings up an interesting question. Certainly, the phrase "arbeit macht frei" comes loaded with dark connotations. But it is only an arrangement of three words which, on their own, have no such connotation. My dad would have agreed with the idea that "work sets you free" - not that he was a fan of nazism, rather he was a workaholic who felt strongly that there was an inherent nobility to work, no matter whether that was street-sweeping or brain surgery. I'm pretty sure that people in Germany had used the phrase before it gained its notoriety, so is it not perhaps time that we rehabilitated it? I think perhaps 70 years is long enough for us to be able to forgive it its past associations.
I'm not saying that we should ever forget what was done in those times, not at all. But maybe we need to stop beating up the language for it. Some time ago I was working for a company in Germany that wanted to compile a database to track the hours that people were working. In the flexitime system that the company had there was the concept of "core time", the hours when someone had to be in the office. In German this is referred to as "Kernzeit". So I build a database with a field in it to reflect the start and time times of this "core" time. Kernzeit being quite a long word, and with no real need to spell it out in full, I logically abbreviated it to "KZ" in the field name.

Germans will understand why this resulted in a rather uncomfortable conversation with my boss - apparently "KZ" is also how one refers to "Konzentrationslager", or concentration camp.

And yes, I probably meant there to be connotations to my use of "Arbeit macht frei". not that any of the badly-dressed poorly-informed woefully slipshod and self-obsessed millenials that they've hired as designers round my way would have got the reference. They'd probably have thought it was the name of a "curated" "artisinal" employment agency.

But to get to the point I was originally trying to make: shouting "Allah'u akhbar" doesn't make you a muslim (fundamentalist or otherwise) anymore than barking "Arbeit macht frei" makes me a nazi or saying "Oy vey" makes me jewish.

eloquently put sir (as always) and a (fairly obvious i would have thought but apparently not) point well made.

EvilBastard wrote: But to get to the point I was originally trying to make: shouting "Allah'u akhbar" doesn't make you a muslim (fundamentalist or otherwise) anymore than barking "Arbeit macht frei" makes me a nazi or saying "Oy vey" makes me jewish.

Indeed its true that it doesn't but in this case he was or at least that is what they wrote about him. There were also some guns and grenades in the truck and the origin of them they say they know were they come from.

I agree on Riefenstahl, her work is inspiring and prototype in filming. I disagree on Speer, he had more organizing skills than architectural talent.

Didn't know about KZ, that was a lovely story

Speer should have been hanged with the other s**t

million voices wrote:Speer should have been hanged with the other s**t

+1 agree on hanging

no end to the madness at the moment and its getting closer. clicky

eastmidswhizzkid wrote:no end to the madness at the moment and its getting closer. clicky

f*ck

EvilBastard wrote:

iesus wrote:We all have bad temper moments here and there. I hope at least you will not use again that "Arbeit macht frei" phrase even as a joke to nazi convicts in hard labor.

Well now, you see, that brings up an interesting question. Certainly, the phrase "arbeit macht frei" comes loaded with dark connotations. But it is only an arrangement of three words which, on their own, have no such connotation. My dad would have agreed with the idea that "work sets you free" - not that he was a fan of nazism, rather he was a workaholic who felt strongly that there was an inherent nobility to work, no matter whether that was street-sweeping or brain surgery. I'm pretty sure that people in Germany had used the phrase before it gained its notoriety, so is it not perhaps time that we rehabilitated it?

I'm pretty sure that slogan: Work set you free/Arbeit macht frei, has its orgins in Max Webber's The Protestant Ethic and the Spirit of Capitalism.

On the rest i agree.
Nontheless, these people are influencted by one of meaning of what is written in Qur'an. At least what immams working hand-in-hand with so~called ISIS/Daesh telling what should be understatning the meaing of words in this "holy" book.

Bartek wrote:Never eat doughnuts with icing. At least not in Orlando.

Not like a police officer to mis-identify a doughnut.

Lucky man. If he were black he'd probably have been shot.