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Posted: 29 Jul 2007, 23:35
by Carpathian Psychonaut
hellboy69 wrote:it's a quote from the movie, when Deckard and Rachel are comparing memories... i guess you're not a skinjob after all
I love that bit - it's kinda sexy and a real battle between them - jousting, if you will - only Rachel doesn't realise the implications........
Deckard: You remember the spider that lived in a bush outside your window? Orange body, green legs. Watched her build a web all summer. Then one day there was a big egg in it. The egg hatched-
Rachael: The egg hatched...
Deckard: And?
Rachael: And a hundred baby spiders came out. And they ate her.
Posted: 29 Jul 2007, 23:51
by 6FeetOver
As a very smart person, it upset me, when I saw this, to realize that (at first), I didn't "get" the implications of what'd just transpired...
Posted: 30 Jul 2007, 00:15
by Carpathian Psychonaut
SINsister wrote:As a very smart person, it upset me, when I saw this, to realize that (at first), I didn't "get" the implications of what'd just transpired...
Not having seen the film
that often, dear Sinnie, it's not
really a surprise that you could miss the odd thing like that. Some would say that seeing a line and
not remembering its place in the script is quite
healthy - my jury is out on that one though, simply because I've seen this one far too much....
Posted: 30 Jul 2007, 00:20
by Silver_Owl
Carpathian Psychonaut wrote:SINsister wrote:As a very smart person, it upset me, when I saw this, to realize that (at first), I didn't "get" the implications of what'd just transpired...
Not having seen the film
that often, dear Sinnie, it's not
really a surprise that you could miss the odd thing like that. Some would say that seeing a line and
not remembering its place in the script is quite
healthy - my jury is out on that one though, simply because I've seen this one far too much....
Is this a test designed to provoke an emotional response?
Posted: 30 Jul 2007, 00:24
by Carpathian Psychonaut
Hom_Corleone wrote:Is this a test designed to provoke an emotional response?
Yep, it's a classic line alright!
Posted: 30 Jul 2007, 00:26
by 6FeetOver
Exactly. Person with telltale signs of mild AS...or replicant? You decide.
Posted: 30 Jul 2007, 00:34
by 6FeetOver
Carpathian Psychonaut wrote:Some would say that seeing a line and
not remembering its place in the script is quite
healthy - my jury is out on that one though, simply because I've seen this one far too much....
That's not what I meant, though. When watching the movie, I didn't "get" why Deckard's knowledge of that incident (something he couldn't have "known" about, of course) was upsetting to Rachael. It didn't dawn on me until later that Deckard shouldn't have known anything about Rachael's past, because he didn't know her, and she hadn't told him - and the fact that he knew of her "memories" meant that he'd been told about them, because she, in fact, was a replicant.
Blade Runner
Posted: 30 Jul 2007, 03:44
by DrG
This DVD set looks very nice... and I
love this film!
If I buy this, it would probably take me a few years to finally watch all 5 versions!
Here's a link from IMDB with a lot of
Blade Runner info:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083658/faq
DrG
Posted: 30 Jul 2007, 09:42
by hellboy69
i've clearly seen this film
too many times already
must get out more............
until the dvd box set comes out, ahem
Posted: 30 Jul 2007, 11:07
by markfiend
Want.
Posted: 30 Jul 2007, 13:43
by christophe
NEED is the word you are looking for
I'm waiting for this since it got anounced a year ago.
but I'm woried about the price though
Posted: 30 Jul 2007, 18:41
by Big Si
christophe wrote:
NEED is the word you are looking for
I'm waiting for this since it got anounced a year ago.
but I'm woried about the price though
Well I've been waiting since it was
rumoured about 3 years ago
Posted: 30 Jul 2007, 20:16
by christophe
Big Si wrote:Well I've been waiting since it was
rumoured about 3 years ago
I guess you'r glad to see some photo's then
not long now
Posted: 31 Jul 2007, 13:42
by spot778
More details ...
First though, a quick correction: The Blade Runner press release which we posted on Thursday contained one error - the running time for The Final Cut should be 117 minutes... not 157 as was shown on the press release. We've corrected our text, but we just wanted to let you know. Next, Charlie revealed that the set will also include a whopping 47 minutes worth of deleted scenes, not seen in any previous version of the film. He then proceeded to debut an exclusive clip of some of this deleted footage. Now... Todd and I had the chance to preview all 47 minutes of this deleted material on Wednesday night, before our panel, and I can tell you first-hand that you have absolutely NO IDEA just how cool this material is. It's not just 47 minutes worth of deleted material - it's like getting a 5½ th or a 6th version of the film itself. The material is all edited together chronologically, to create an encapsulated version of the story. It starts with a completely new opening credits scene and new special effects shots of the 2019 L.A. cityscape. Then you get scenes you've seen before... but it's all put together using alternate takes, different camera angles and other completely unused footage. There are also a number of true deleted scenes, including a few that no one outside the production even knew existed before. All of this is set to music from the film and newly-looped sound effects... as well as Harrison Ford's voiceover narration. But get this: This narration is a completely different take than what was in the original theatrical version of the film, and it's just totally different. Different lines, different dialogue. We think it's actually BETTER than what was ultimately used in the film!
Let me give you just a couple examples of some of the things you're going to see: Turns out Deckard had a wife, who now lives in one of the off-world colonies - you see a picture of her and Deckard together (except that, if my memory doesn't fail me, the picture is set on the same porch as Rachel's photograph of herself with her mother - consider the implications of that). There's also a brief scene, after Batty has killed Tyrell, where he gets back into the elevator and he's shaking - he's clearly disturbed at what he's just done. The elevator announces the floor in a computerized female voice, and Batty looks up at the speaker and says "Mother?" in this sort of child-like daze. Rutger Hauer's performance is just perfect. There's even two alternate endings, in which Deckard and Rachel have dialogue while driving off in Deckard's car. And this is all just scratching the surface. I'm telling you, this stuff is absolutely amazing. If you think you know everything there is to know about Blade Runner, you are in for a REAL shock. Todd and I were just stunned after we finished watching this stuff. And keep in mind, every bit of this footage was shot by Ridley Scott in his prime... so it's just gorgeous. My head is still spinning over it all.
The final bit of footage that Charlie previewed exclusively for the crowd, was a behind-the-scenes look at the infamous reshoot from earlier this year featuring Joanna Cassidy's character Zhora. Now, when news of this reshoot leaked on the Net, it sparked an outcry from fans who feared that Scott was pulling a George Lucas and drastically altering the film with all new effects or something. Turns out, nothing could be further from the truth. The Final Cut of the film itself has been edited a tiny bit, with a couple of new scenes added and a little bit of footage excised. But the new effects tweaks are very minor. For example, in many shots involving the practical, on-set Spinner, you can see the suspension cables holding it in the air. These have been removed. In a couple instances members of the camera crew were accidentally captured on the edges of the frame, so they've been removed. And there's an instance where Harrison Ford's dialogue doesn't match his lip movements on screen (a shot through the glass as he's talking to the snake dealer), so Harrison Ford's son, Ben Ford, was brought in. He was dressed in the costume and was given the same scar on his chin as his father via make-up. His face was then shot (at the correct angle, under matching lighting) reading the same lines, and his mouth and chin were inserted over his father's so the lip-synch now matches. It's absolutely seamless.
But the Zhora reshoot was what triggered the most controversy, so here's what it was about: Back in 1982, actress Joanna Cassidy wasn't allowed to do the stunt where Zhora crashes through the window panes. But if you watch the film closely, especially now in high-definition, it's painfully obvious that it's a stuntwoman in those shots. I mean, it's not even close. The woman has a bad afro-like wig on and it's bouncing around so much in those shots that it looks like Ronald McDonald going through the glass. So Cassidy was brought back in, dressed in her original costume and was given the same snake tattoo on her face. Then she was shot on a greenscreen stage, going through the same movements as the stunt woman. Her face and body angles were matched to the original stunt woman frame by frame, so they're identical. Then, Cassidy's head was digitally inserted over the stunt woman's and it was blended together, color-corrected and matched seamlessly. So now, when you see Zhora crash through the glass, it's actually Zhora all the way through. Charlie showed the behind-the-scenes at our panel, and then at the official Warner panel the next day, he showed the final shot. And again, it's amazing. The first time I saw this finished sequence a few months ago, I was actively looking for the effect... and I completely missed it. That's how good a job the CG team has done on this. It was only after going back and looking at the original shots on DVD that I realized what a big difference there was, and I was just floored.
Posted: 31 Jul 2007, 16:30
by culprit
I Want It.
mmmmm.
Posted: 29 Aug 2007, 19:33
by Big Si
Posted: 29 Aug 2007, 20:22
by Carpathian Psychonaut
I've just ordered it from Amazon.com - only $61 delivered from the USA for the suitcase version?
I should bloody think so!
Posted: 29 Aug 2007, 21:16
by Karst
The premiere of this is in two days. Time to book tickets ladies & gentlemen.
http://www.rutgerhauer.org/news/news.php
Posted: 31 Aug 2007, 13:05
by Carpathian Psychonaut
Just pre-ordered for $60 delivered from Amazon.com - what a bargain! If the PAL version gets a date/price aeround that I'll cancel one and nab the other instead......
Fan should go here {
Crave Online interview} for a great insight into the film and the new DVD from Ridley Scott
Posted: 31 Aug 2007, 13:29
by czuczu
Desperately want the Blu Ray set, not been able to find out if it has region protection tho :/
Posted: 01 Sep 2007, 21:32
by cocoamix
I was one of a lucky handful that saw the Workprint in 1992 during the
2 week run at the Catsro Theater in San Francisco.
You can see a horrible shaky-cam version
here, but I don't recommend it if you never had a chance to see this version.
Posted: 01 Sep 2007, 22:32
by 6FeetOver
The dead walk among us...
Where the hell have you been, Clif?
Posted: 01 Sep 2007, 23:34
by James Blast
Aye! FFS another MacBrother and HLer who has been away far too long!
Posted: 15 Oct 2007, 23:02
by Silver_Owl
Did we ever establish if the briefcase is actually going to be released in our region?
Posted: 17 Nov 2007, 12:26
by Big Si
