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Guy goes nuts in building filled with public - Police do nothing - public get hurt - Police get slated for doing nothing.



Guy goes nuts in building filled with public - Police get slated for restraining him.



Do the Police know he's unarmed?.
If the Police tell me to lay still or else I'll get Tazered............I lay still.

I agree that the vid that Sinnie posted showed outrageous behaviour by the authorities in America, however James' original post related to tasers being TRIALLED by six forces in England and Wales. For anyone to relate the two is a bit like blaming the Royal Marines because the Chinese army invaded Tibet!
Police in the UK remain overwhelmingly unarmed, whereas firearms despite being banned are now used more frequently than before by criminals due to their availability. The fact is that UK law and Criminal Justice system has developed separately from the U.S. so it does not stand to reason that the UK would see the same type of use. The future has not already been written therefore it does not follow that Britain will automatically become the same as anywhere else.
Let's not forget that while the police are there to uphold the law, it is the Government that makes the law, and it was a so-called left wing Government that has brought in mandatory fingerprinting and DNA sampling of suspects prior to charge, and the same Government that has banned smoking in public places. Surely they should be the target of any anger.

Nixon wrote:I agree that the vid that Sinnie posted showed outrageous behaviour by the authorities in America, however James' original post related to tasers being TRIALLED by six forces in England and Wales. For anyone to relate the two is a bit like blaming the Royal Marines because the Chinese army invaded Tibet!
Police in the UK remain overwhelmingly unarmed, whereas firearms despite being banned are now used more frequently than before by criminals due to their availability. The fact is that UK law and Criminal Justice system has developed separately from the U.S. so it does not stand to reason that the UK would see the same type of use. The future has not already been written therefore it does not follow that Britain will automatically become the same as anywhere else.
Let's not forget that while the police are there to uphold the law, it is the Government that makes the law, and it was a so-called left wing Government that has brought in mandatory fingerprinting and DNA sampling of suspects prior to charge, and the same Government that has banned smoking in public places. Surely they should be the target of any anger.

Right on! - Let's try & save what's left of democracy together eh?

Trying to type this isn't easy via Windows 98 @640x480 on dial-up ... excuse me if it is illegible 4 you all?! - Yowza - No Tasers PLS.

Right on! - Let's try & save what's left of democracy together eh?
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Guy Fawkes where are you when we need you NOW!

Nixon wrote:The future has not already been written therefore it does not follow that Britain will automatically become the same as anywhere else.

Christ, let's hope not!

reactiv8 wrote: Trying to type this isn't easy via Windows 98 @640x480 on dial-up ...

Have you been bad in an earlier life?!

SINsister wrote:

Nixon wrote:The future has not already been written therefore it does not follow that Britain will automatically become the same as anywhere else.

Christ, let's hope not!

The future cannot possibly be pre-ordained. The fact that we have choices shows otherwise. History also shows that each country develops both indepenently and interdependently at the same time. This means that there is a future where we can all integrate perfectly having learned the nistakes of the past. (Mind you in an alternate Philip K Dick universe.......)

timsinister wrote:

reactiv8 wrote: Trying to type this isn't easy via Windows 98 @640x480 on dial-up ...

Have you been bad in an earlier life?!

Mmmm - probably (anyone who knows about these things, please enlighten me?) ... this one too maybe, but 'judgement' has ultimtaely been reserved (so far - apparently) - maybe 'St. Peter' (or whoever) has a special section for the likes of yours truly ...

... I would prefer to believe that I will come back as an Albatross
(& not get caught in a fishing line)

Nixon wrote:Right on! - Let's try & save what's left of democracy together eh?

Guy Fawkes where are you when we need you NOW![/quote]

I'm busy right NOW, and you wouldn't believe it either!
(The 'Fifth Amendment' prevents me from saying more)
- The irony is spread so thickly it's choking ...
(someone 'up there' evidently has a sense of humour ...
- see other threads ...)

Anywayz, I sense that tonight is a strange night whilst all you pretties slumber
- Your dreams are quite rivetting I can tell you!
- Better than Hollywood ...

Nixon wrote:

SINsister wrote:

Nixon wrote:The future has not already been written therefore it does not follow that Britain will automatically become the same as anywhere else.

Christ, let's hope not!

The future cannot possibly be pre-ordained. The fact that we have choices shows otherwise. History also shows that each country develops both indepenently and interdependently at the same time. This means that there is a future where we can all integrate perfectly having learned the nistakes of the past. (Mind you in an alternate Philip K Dick universe.......)

"nistakes" ?

Another one...

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/09/21/oh ... index.html

I find particularly disturbing the cop's "You're going to walk to that car or you're going to be Tasered again." They're just using it as a super-violent cattle-prod.

I have absolutely no sympathy for cops using these stun-guns for anything but their own defence or that of others. Maybe they should be made to feel their own medicine until the batteries run out.

nowayjose wrote:Another one...

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US/09/21/oh ... index.html

I find particularly disturbing the cop's "You're going to walk to that car or you're going to be Tasered again." They're just using it as a super-violent cattle-prod.

I have absolutely no sympathy for cops using these stun-guns for anything but their own defence or that of others. Maybe they should be made to feel their own medicine until the batteries run out.

cops abuse too many times their authority

nowayjose wrote:I have absolutely no sympathy for cops using these stun-guns for anything but their own defence or that of others. Maybe they should be made to feel their own medicine until the batteries run out.

Aye