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Gollum's Cock wrote:

Eva wrote:

Gollum's Cock wrote:Sorry, but that is bollocks. They should put on a good show, with at least good sound full stop. The relationship between band and public is secondary, ( a nice little extra). I'm curious, are there any more bands which get these constant bad reviews.

They try to put on a good show each time. But they're no machines, and behind each of their machines there's a human being. And there's the venue, too. Besides, you totally underestimate the give-and-take aspect. Have you ever tried holding a speach in front of an unfriendly audience? Ask any teacher. It's not always their fault if the students keep chatting and spoiling the lesson.

I agree completely, but.... it does kind of happen too often.

I guess I always have been lucky then so far!

After being here a while it becomes obvious why Ghostrider, Prescott and several other Heartlanders agree that

there is definitely a give/take symbiotic relationship between and the crowd, which he has mentioned in the past...

The Sisters with a great audience is a drug for ...
a pure *cough* adrenaline high!
wants us to rock out, lose our minds and have fun!

I witnessed this in Toronto 2006... at the Kool Haus!
My pal MrB and were both up front getting utterly bastard groovy with
the old school industrial goth dance club crowd... what lovely bliss!

We were all "High tide... Wide eyed... " but far less than "Dread in monochrome"...
MrB wore an orange coat!

Anyway... the Buffalo crowd of 2008 was definitely more angst ridden...
I lived there many years -- so I know.
As I was recording... I did not go immediately to the front as I would
want to do. From the upper tier I could see the crowd before the band...
mostly just staring at them...

Gollum's Cock wrote:

Ghostrider wrote:

Gollum's Cock wrote:Sorry, but that is bollocks. They should put on a good show, with at least good sound full stop. The relationship between band and public is secondary, ( a nice little extra). I'm curious, are there any more bands which get these constant bad reviews.

stop seeing them than.. i'm sure you'll fit right in at the official Backstreet Boys forum

That's the annoying thing, s**t performance better than no performance. Although once every two years is quite enough for me now.

well.. if it's s**t performance you want every few years, maybe try being a fan of Laura Lynn or Gary Hagger..
there you can actually comment on true karaoke and complete missing of other bandmembers..

Ghostrider wrote: the vibes they get from the audiance does a lot to them.. maybe that's why we always get kick ass gigs here in Belgium.. we treat them well.. they treat us well..

The show in Moscow in December, 2006, was also excellent! And I haven't been to any other... I can't afford going abroad for concerts, unfortunately... But I'll be there whenever they come to Russia!

Garbageman wrote: ...and the issue with moving his mouth and nothing coming out is...

Casting spells maybe?

I like you Dr.G but I for one am fed up being played for a patsy.
Andrew Taylor and his entourage are only any good to people who want them to be good and the odd old tune ("We haven't played in a while") flung into the set, doesn't cut it with me. Others grab at it like manna. Too old, too fooled again.

Wake up, look at the reviews on here, it's sub-standard.
It's horrible but eventually even you will realise we are getting a plain burger when we ordered a Big Mac.

Thank you, preacher, for trying, but I prefer thinking for myself. Fun is something you cannot explain, you either have it or you don't.

Aha, the only thing I know for sure is that the Sisters' Moscow show is still my favorite rock concert though I've been to many different gigs.

James Blast, maybe the problem is that you ordered Big Mac, and some of us - something tasty and healthy?

Eva wrote:Thank you, preacher, for trying, but I prefer thinking for myself. Fun is something you cannot explain, you either have it or you don't.

just don't get what's up with some people onhere.. who clearly don't feel the band anymore.. and yet keep on posting all those negative thoughts onhere..
if you realy don't like the Sisters anymore.. don't post.. your whining is getting anoying and it won't change our minds.. let us be happy with the old songs thrown in.. let us be happy with the inbetween-song-banter..
let us be hopefull, excited and content if we want to..

Ghostrider wrote:

Eva wrote:Thank you, preacher, for trying, but I prefer thinking for myself. Fun is something you cannot explain, you either have it or you don't.

just don't get what's up with some people onhere.. who clearly don't feel the band anymore.. and yet keep on posting all those negative thoughts onhere..
if you realy don't like the Sisters anymore.. don't post.. your whining is getting anoying and it won't change our minds.. let us be happy with the old songs thrown in.. let us be happy with the inbetween-song-banter..
let us be hopefull, excited and content if we want to..

I like The Sisters. I love the setlists, few new songs, few old songs. Chatty Eldritch or quiet Eldritch I'll accept both. What I find difficult to accept are the level of complaints about been able to hear his voice or not.

I'll still go once in a while, but I'd also like to air my opinions on a Sisters forum without the Uber fans having a go at anything that is remotely negative. That, is also quite annoying.

That said, I'm still looking forward to seeing them in the Dam.
But I know where I'll be urinating if I can't hear the dear sausages' voice

@Gollums Cock: Although I might sound harsh sometimes in my replies, I don't mind people airing an opinion that's completely contradicting mine. Regarding gigs though I prefer reading opinions of people who've actually been to these gigs.

@all who are interested: Listening to available recordings of the current US tour I've had one or two additional thoughts:
a) I can see now where the people come from who complain about Von not being loud enough. It is true, that his voice isn't clearly above the rest. It's just that for me that's how the Sisters sound today, and I like it, although it was different in the past.
b) I've also noticed that not all the gigs have been as loud and clear as the one in Buffalo. Could it be that they "protect" Von's voice by gradually mixing the overall sound more quiet in order to keep the voice "alive" for the rest of the tour?

Eva wrote:@Gollums Cock: Although I might sound harsh sometimes in my replies, I don't mind people airing an opinion that's completely contradicting mine. Regarding gigs though I prefer reading opinions of people who've actually been to these gigs.

@all who are interested: Listening to available recordings of the current US tour I've had one or two additional thoughts:
a) I can see now where the people come from who complain about Von not being loud enough. It is true, that his voice isn't clearly above the rest. It's just that for me that's how the Sisters sound today, and I like it, although it was different in the past.
b) I've also noticed that not all the gigs have been as loud and clear as the one in Buffalo. Could it be that they "protect" Von's voice by gradually mixing the overall sound more quiet in order to keep the voice "alive" for the rest of the tour?

I had n't been to these gigs, I was just airing an opinion that there were always complaints.

Well I haven't been to any of the US shows but I have a pretty good idea of what I can expect at the European ones - and I'm very much looking forward to seeing them play again! I certainly don't have a problem with people who don't share my enthusiasm or opinion on Sisters gigs these days. However I DO have a problem when said people take every opportunity to ram their disagreements down our throats and can't read a few positive posts without implying that those of us who still do enjoy Sisters gigs are merely deluding ourselves. Who the f**k are you to judge what we should and shouldn't like? Sorry James, but given your well-documented dislike of present day Sisters shows, I don't understand why you continue to torture yourself by reading the reviews. Nobody's holding a gun to your head you know

in conclusion they sound amazing just way too quiet.

thank you for participating in my thread.

8.5 wrote:in conclusion they sound amazing just way too quiet.

thank you for participating in my thread.

Amen

DrG wrote: I witnessed this in Toronto 2006... at the Kool Haus!
My pal MrB and were both up front getting utterly bastard groovy with
the old school industrial goth dance club crowd... what lovely bliss!

First time I've heard someone talk positively about the energy of a Toronto crowd.... but yeah, that was a great show. Still the best I've seen I think.
The following night in Montreal was remarkably different.... (though I still enjoyed that too.)



Tony