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Posted: 29 Dec 2008, 22:28
by Andrew S
Ah the wonderful bureaucratic nanny state that is the UK!
I was stopped and questionned by an armed policeman at Stansted Airport recently. Being profiled is a common enough occurrence for me at UK airports but on this particular occasion, the cop had to fill out and issue me a copy of a form documenting the stop, my description, his questions and my replies! He read out the form's contents to me as he wrote, but I'm not sure if this was out of necessity or courtesy. He was so nice about it all, and even asked if I minded his description of my appearance ("large, bushy, black beard"). The whole episode was perverse, not to mention needlessly time-consuming
And another thing - I'm utterly sick to death of being reminded everywhere I look about the importance of making sure I eat my five a day
It makes one want to dive into a huge bag of chips!
Posted: 29 Dec 2008, 22:48
by 7anthea7
'A little' hardly covers it
There are situations in which I could see this being useful and justifiable - but
never in an average classroom. And though it may not
technically qualify as a genuine 'conflict of interest', his involvement in this doesn't exactly indicate to me that he has the best interests of
children in mind.
Posted: 30 Dec 2008, 00:15
by nowayjose
Someone's getting really rich off all that surveillance crap...
Posted: 30 Dec 2008, 11:23
by eotunun
Honestly, folks: That's taking shapes I can't sympathise with anymore. As said elsewhere there are enough experiences in my family with the GDR, and what I read reminds me of these GDR stories I was told all the time. Britain has always been a bit different, that was always its special charme, but it seems it's finally going bonkers.
Or is it that in the UK all crap is being done publicly, other than in Germany where we hardly ever are aware of the hunger for data by the companies and officials?
After all in 08 there was a number of serious scandals, especially in the environment of German Telecom, when illegal buisnesses with private people's dates were reveiled.
Posted: 30 Dec 2008, 11:24
by eotunun
Honestly, folks: That's taking shapes I can't sympathise with anymore. As said elsewhere there are enough experiences in my family with the GDR, and what I read reminds me of these GDR stories I was told all the time. Britain has always been a bit different, that was always its special charme, but it seems it's finally going bonkers.
Or is it that in the UK all crap is being done publicly, other than in Germany where we hardly ever are aware of the hunger for data by the companies and officials?
After all in 08 there was a number of serious scandals, especially in the environment of German Telecom, when illegal buisnesses with private people's dates were reveiled.
Posted: 30 Dec 2008, 11:24
by eotunun
Honestly, folks: That's taking shapes I can't sympathise with anymore. As said elsewhere there are enough experiences in my family with the GDR, and what I read reminds me of these GDR stories I was told all the time. Britain has always been a bit different, that was always its special charme, but it seems it's finally going bonkers.
Or is it that in the UK all crap is being done publicly, other than in Germany where we hardly ever are aware of the hunger for data by the companies and officials?
After all in 08 there was a number of serious scandals, especially in the environment of German Telecom, when illegal buisnesses with private people's dates were reveiled.
Posted: 31 Dec 2008, 03:04
by stufarq
7anthea7 wrote:
'A little' hardly covers it
There are situations in which I could see this being useful and justifiable - but
never in an average classroom. And though it may not
technically qualify as a genuine 'conflict of interest', his involvement in this doesn't exactly indicate to me that he has the best interests of
children in mind.
Don't worry - the recordings will all get left on a train.
Posted: 31 Dec 2008, 06:03
by 7anthea7
stufarq wrote:Don't worry - the recordings will all get left on a train.
Too true...
Posted: 02 Jan 2009, 01:58
by Gary
7anthea7 wrote:
'A little' hardly covers it
There are situations in which I could see this being useful and justifiable - but
never in an average classroom. And though it may not
technically qualify as a genuine 'conflict of interest', his involvement in this doesn't exactly indicate to me that he has the best interests of
children in mind.
This is old news, has been going on in a number of schools that I know of for years. Doesn't make it right of course.
Posted: 06 Jan 2009, 01:59
by darkparticle
...your last couple of posts seem like the aimless ramblings of somebody high on something fun. I mean, seriously, what is the "freedom to solve problems ?".
Aaahh, thanks. You merely said something that entered your head didn't you?
Freedom to solve problems is the de rigueur tool for exposing a Sophist view of freedom. It's the acid test of free nations - There are none but it's intreresting, Cuba is freeer than the USA by such standards. Your problems are more entrenched and time-served, you do them well.
The rest of your post is similar dribble. You're not inkaclipse (or whatever the name is) are you?
Im sure you'd find him much less intellectually challenging, hypocritical and personally offensive.
I was giving you a few choices to think a bit more relatively, given that your USA is tactically 'at war' on 2 fronts, three if the Homeland Security plan for 20,000 soldiers to take to the streets is good to go. Certainly cruising for a third and politically on 4-5 more. This is while battling with a failing economy.
Still, if it makes you happy
I can beleive all I read here and more about the role of state and the control sought. In the Uk we don't hide from it, many of us know it for what it is.
The time for change is when you have a catalyst, it's just not here yet...(Maybe some tour dates can change that
)
What we spend little time doing(media the exception) is focussing on another Countries misfortune like it isn't happening in our back yard.