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Posted: 05 Mar 2009, 12:42
by Izzy HaveMercy
It's the most cliché metalriff of the past ten years combined with Flood II riff.

I'm so unimpressed the empty toilet roll lying next to me looks like Bafflement Incarnate.

They have to do better, WAY better, to even catch my interest nowadays :|

Usually, for this kind of stuff I believe a needle, a pill or, failing that, a neckshot is the most humane thing to do.

So sad...

IZ.

Posted: 05 Mar 2009, 18:28
by Perki
...

Well I like it.

Posted: 05 Mar 2009, 18:30
by markfiend
I rather think that I'm with Iz. Meh. :|

Posted: 05 Mar 2009, 18:45
by Quiff Boy
well yeah, the chorus riff is quite floody, and the main geetar riff is kinda killing jokey (a pure coincidence apparently), but i like it.

the tune incredibly catchy and live it felt very powerful :D

just wish i had the foggiest what the lyrics are :lol:

Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 04:43
by DocSommer

Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 07:20
by euphoria
Wow, I'm speechless, Doc :eek:

You're really good at this - thank you! :notworthy: :notworthy:

And be prepared to change the lyrics from time to time

:wink:

Edit: maybe I have missed some info, but what is the sound source? More specifically, is it a different one than the 2 wide-spread versions, Berlin and Dresden?

Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 11:13
by mh

Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 11:21
by eastmidswhizzkid
awesome riff. instant classic. crash and burn -esque which ain't a bad thing. :von:

Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 11:45
by Rofocale
Awesome editing Doc!!!

I agree with some of you that the song is a bit cliché but I still like it.

Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 11:56
by the_inescapable_truth
Very nice. Thanks!

Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 12:01
by markfiend
To be fair, I'll give it a chance to grow on me. 8)

Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 12:57
by Maisey
Is that a 12 string Chris is using?

Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 13:01
by Quiff Boy
i didn't see him switch geetars tbh :|

Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 14:20
by Syberberg
Maisey wrote:Is that a 12 string Chris is using?
You're obsessed Maisey :lol:

It's one of his Ibanez ones. One like this, in fact.

As for the song itself....well, it's rather clichéd and is in desperate need of a MUCH thicker and fuller bassline, possibly doing a bit more than root note, root and fourth, with root and fith would spice it up a bit. But it is growing on me like fungus on a slice of bread.

The lead line in the verse is, what, the first two or four bars of FloodII? Get the Doc to carry that on keys and bring Ben's guitar in to play a different riff to suggest a different chord (Augmented Fourth or a Seventh might be nice) than Chris is playing.

Okay, forget the Killing Joke riff...it's Hunted by Gary Numan, just sped up slightly. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL5yHrWAJmg

Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 14:24
by DocSommer
euphoria wrote: Edit: maybe I have missed some info, but what is the sound source? More specifically, is it a different one than the 2 wide-spread versions, Berlin and Dresden?
The audio track based of the recordings from scttrbrn (Dresden) and Cyberbio (Berlin) - both sources has been mixed together. The video footage has been shot in Hamburg and Dresden.

Regarding the 12 sting: I think Chris didn't use this goodie at all, even during something fast.

Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 15:23
by TheBoyNextDoor
DocSommer wrote:
Regarding the 12 sting: I think Chris didn't use this goodie at all, even during something fast.
Nope, they/he didn't. They play both I Was Wrong and Something Fast on electric guitars. Sounds ok, though I love that Chet Atkins sound. :D

Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 16:02
by christophe
fantastic! :D
any chance we could get more of that? in the weeding section or something? :D

Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 16:04
by DocSommer
christophe wrote:
fantastic! :D
any chance we could get more of that? in the weeding section or something? :D
Some day...some day ;D

Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 16:08
by christophe
DocSommer wrote:
christophe wrote:
fantastic! :D
any chance we could get more of that? in the weeding section or something? :D
Some day...some day ;D
:kiss: ;D

Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 16:09
by paul
:eek:

Doesn't anyone think that the guitarrif/drums of "arms" sounds an awful lot like the tune of the Terrible Thunder Lizzards?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JO6pn2mp ... re=related

Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 16:42
by moses
Syberberg wrote: As for the song itself....well, it's rather clichéd and is in desperate need of a MUCH thicker and fuller bassline, possibly doing a bit more than root note, root and fourth, with root and fith would spice it up a bit. ....

The lead line in the verse is, what, the first two or four bars of FloodII? Get the Doc to carry that on keys and bring Ben's guitar in to play a different riff to suggest a different chord (Augmented Fourth or a Seventh might be nice) than Chris is playing.
You should apply to play guitar for them, then The Sisters would sound like Legion sounding like a really bad Sisters - The Simulacrums Of Mercy. :urff:

Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 17:50
by 6FeetOver
Syberberg wrote:Okay, forget the Killing Joke riff...it's Hunted by Gary Numan, just sped up slightly. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL5yHrWAJmg
Yeah, but...that little keyboard bit *and* the "chugging" riff are lifted straight out of "Millennium!" :lol: Good grief, the pilfering. :roll:

Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 19:50
by Syberberg
moses wrote:
Syberberg wrote: As for the song itself....well, it's rather clichéd and is in desperate need of a MUCH thicker and fuller bassline, possibly doing a bit more than root note, root and fourth, with root and fith would spice it up a bit. ....

The lead line in the verse is, what, the first two or four bars of FloodII? Get the Doc to carry that on keys and bring Ben's guitar in to play a different riff to suggest a different chord (Augmented Fourth or a Seventh might be nice) than Chris is playing.
You should apply to play guitar for them, then The Sisters would sound like Legion sounding like a really bad Sisters - The Simulacrums Of Mercy. :urff:
Haven't you heard the news old chap? I walked out of Legion last month. Do try and keep up, there's a good fellow. ;D

Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 19:51
by Syberberg
SINsister wrote:
Syberberg wrote:Okay, forget the Killing Joke riff...it's Hunted by Gary Numan, just sped up slightly. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vL5yHrWAJmg
Yeah, but...that little keyboard bit *and* the "chugging" riff are lifted straight out of "Millennium!" :lol: Good grief, the pilfering. :roll:
Shocking, innit? :lol:

Posted: 06 Mar 2009, 23:08
by 800mak
Totally annoying, unfortunately... The band has a legacy far too good for this...thing!


Still hoping...