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Posted: 11 Sep 2009, 21:54
by MadameButterfly
but in that breath, he keeps on performing for us all over the world.
i wouldn't want to meet you either if you wanted to punch my lights out for squandering such a talent! he doesn't treat us like pricks either, he in fact does gigs in the home countries of some of our users.

we are not being sold short ~ we are allowed to come out of our holes and this place to see him perform live.

if i was his personality i would do exactly the same thing.

he is a good person james....there is not doubt in that.

Posted: 11 Sep 2009, 21:56
by Being645
stufarq wrote:... but the only choir Von's ever sung with is the Chorus of Vengeance.
:lol: ... I'd love to agree to you ... :lol:

but I think it's not all that true ... :roll:

Posted: 11 Sep 2009, 21:58
by James Blast
MadameButterfly wrote:he is a good person james....there is not doubt in that.
prove it, just the facts

Posted: 11 Sep 2009, 22:03
by MadameButterfly
James Blast wrote:
MadameButterfly wrote:he is a good person james....there is not doubt in that.
prove it, just the facts
the facts from what i know from others?

* he is a quiet person
* he is someone that will give you a second or two as a fan
* he is a people~person within his friend group
* he still takes the stage and is a god within TSOM.

Posted: 11 Sep 2009, 22:05
by Europa
James Blast wrote:nope and he never wants to meet me, 'cause I'd punch his fuckin' lights out for squandering such a talent and treating us like pricks

I like here, but I'm fed up being sold short = CUNT!
What a business that you're viewed like that for making your own choices.

Squandered talent? Isn't it our own choice what job we do if at all? He is just fortunate in that his career choice allows him to choose how to and when to work, and that he can still support himself. Sold short? You don't have to attend gigs or care? I don't understand why you're so angry? Frankly having done the opposite for years I always put myself first now and don't see that I owe anyone anything other than not willfully harming anyone. I don't see his choices as any different. He's doing what he wants to do and living a normal life. Power to him.

Posted: 11 Sep 2009, 22:09
by Europa
Who knows if he's a good person. What's a good person? I like the music, the opinions and the world view and that is good enough for me.

Posted: 11 Sep 2009, 22:11
by James Blast
ppffffff.....

let's just move on, I have some bread in the oven

Posted: 11 Sep 2009, 22:25
by Being645
In addition to what has already been said, a short look back might tell you
that surely not everything has come the way he might have chosen ...

So many things went so damned wrong ... I wouldn't contend he had been all that lucky so far ...



;D ... However, a good bread in the oven is always a reason to calm down for a moment ... :lol:

Have a nice meal. ... :wink:

Posted: 11 Sep 2009, 22:32
by James Blast
he's a paranoid freak afraid of failure which = EPIC FAIL!

tit

Posted: 11 Sep 2009, 22:47
by Being645
:( ... perhaps you were ashamed, if you knew the truth ... sorry for that.

And secondly - I can't see any paranoid freak afraid of failure in someone
who has never given up playing concerts all over the world ...

To the contrary, I really like and enjoy his stubbornness ... ;D ... :notworthy: ...

tat ... :lol:

Posted: 11 Sep 2009, 23:36
by Moakahontas
Being645 wrote:
And secondly - I can't see any paranoid freak afraid of failure in someone
who has never given up playing concerts all over the world ...

To the contrary, I really like and enjoy his stubbornness ... ;D ... :notworthy: ...

tat ... :lol:


:notworthy: ..cannot agree more..

Posted: 11 Sep 2009, 23:57
by mh
Pffft, what I do know for certain is that he turned up doon t'pub in Leeds after the last gig there. That's gotta count for something. And Chris is happy to play with him, so that's good enough for me. :D

Posted: 12 Sep 2009, 00:33
by lachert
James Blast wrote:he's a paranoid freak afraid of failure which = EPIC FAIL!

tit
unfortunately, it's true :(

Posted: 12 Sep 2009, 00:54
by EvilBastard
James Blast wrote:ppffffff.....

let's just move on, I have some bread in the oven
Wha' wha' wha'? You're giving up on what has the makings of a great argument, based as it is on the slimmest of information (I would think that there's maybe 3 people on here who have a better idea of what the guy's personality is like than what is gleaned from the pages of the music press and the odd meeting in a pub)...because you're pregnant?! :eek:

Posted: 12 Sep 2009, 09:06
by Silver_Owl
EvilBastard wrote:
James Blast wrote:ppffffff.....

let's just move on, I have some bread in the oven
Wha' wha' wha'? You're giving up on what has the makings of a great argument, based as it is on the slimmest of information (I would think that there's maybe 3 people on here who have a better idea of what the guy's personality is like than what is gleaned from the pages of the music press and the odd meeting in a pub)...because you're pregnant?! :eek:
Congrats Iris. :)

Posted: 12 Sep 2009, 10:23
by Europa
Okay I didn't realise. James maybe this will settle your hormones and the argument...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ImchDvFU6Q

Isn't this why we're here?! :twisted: "He's got tomahawk missiles in his hands" :eek:

Posted: 12 Sep 2009, 12:35
by eotunun
Hom_Corleone wrote:
EvilBastard wrote:
James Blast wrote:ppffffff.....

let's just move on, I have some bread in the oven
Wha' wha' wha'? You're giving up on what has the makings of a great argument, based as it is on the slimmest of information (I would think that there's maybe 3 people on here who have a better idea of what the guy's personality is like than what is gleaned from the pages of the music press and the odd meeting in a pub)...because you're pregnant?! :eek:
Congrats Iris. :)
:lol: I just know she'll be a happy dad, :lol:

Posted: 12 Sep 2009, 13:19
by metal on metal
Of course, most of us will never know for sure whether, privately, Eldritch is a good person or a c**t but his public persona over the years has always swayed very heavily towards "c**t". Banging out the crowd-pleasers to Sisters fans on tour every couple of years sheds no light whatsoever on what he's like as a person but, from a career point of view, it is playing it rather more safely than actually releasing new recordings to the mercy of the wider market, so James does have a point there.

But surely a person's character has got nothing at all to do with how talented they are. Eldritch could steal grannies' mobility scooters, kick puppies and come out in support of David Cameron, it wouldn't change my opinion that he's made some bloody brilliant records. On the other hand, I've met That Guitarist and, from the short period I spent talking to him, I found him a friendly, charming, patient and all round nice person. It didn't change my opinion that his records are a pile of poo.

Posted: 12 Sep 2009, 13:47
by Bartek
James Blast wrote:he's a paranoid freak afraid of failure which = EPIC FAIL!

tit
couldn't say it better. and current gigs it's just a flogging this horse.

Posted: 12 Sep 2009, 14:23
by Being645
Europa wrote:Okay I didn't realise. James maybe this will settle your hormones and the argument...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ImchDvFU6Q

Isn't this why we're here?! :twisted: "He's got tomahawk missiles in his hands" :eek:
Thank you, "Europa". Thanks.

Posted: 12 Sep 2009, 16:24
by Europa
If you enjoyed 645 then I'm glad 8)

Posted: 12 Sep 2009, 16:29
by Being645
Enjoyed ... :lol: ... pretty much, and - somewhat extensively, I guess ... thanks again ...

Posted: 12 Sep 2009, 18:35
by stufarq
James Blast wrote:you were doing so well up till here
stufarq wrote:[the Chorus of Vengeance.
it's a pissing game and I won't be party to it
You mean because the rest was true but he didn't actually sing on Gift? Or because it was a horribly strained and trite metaphor that should never have been allowed to live?
James Blast wrote:Mr. E's a cunt and Lovelock wrote some heinous tunes and words - let us move on from these silly old men's games
So that's how you get past the swear filter!

Buggery bollocks.

Posted: 12 Sep 2009, 23:33
by James Blast
aye

Posted: 13 Sep 2009, 01:08
by Being645
... and not even bold ... :D ...