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Posted: 18 Jun 2003, 21:12
by MrChris
What, mine, you mean?
Posted: 19 Jun 2003, 07:31
by hallucienate
MrChris wrote:What, mine, you mean?
no man! I was referring to "stools" in your "have there sisters lost their stool" joke. See point four here:
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=stool
Please tell me I wasn't the only one who got that
Posted: 19 Jun 2003, 10:12
by Quiff Boy
hallucienate wrote:MrChris wrote:What, mine, you mean?
no man! I was referring to "stools" in your "have there sisters lost their stool" joke. See point four here:
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=stool
Please tell me I wasn't the only one who got that
err, i got it. just didnt laugh coz it wasnt funny
Posted: 19 Jun 2003, 10:21
by MrChris
It wasn't meant to be THAT funny.
'If it was funny, it wouldn't have been funny, would it?'
(Mark and Lard Philosophy of Comedy Primer, Vol. 3, Chapter 7).
Posted: 19 Jun 2003, 10:26
by hallucienate
MrChris wrote:It wasn't meant to be THAT funny.
So youre' admitting it was funny? thank god.
Next time you're at the bar and someone offers to "push in your stool" beware!
Posted: 19 Jun 2003, 10:32
by MrChris
Nuff said.
Posted: 19 Jun 2003, 11:37
by The Green Lantern
I still think the Sisters of Mercy are the coolest thing to hit the planet since Baccara. They do seem, however, to blow every chance they get to make it big-time. The change back in '85, on the very verge of great success, was a nessecity, inevitable. The comeback with Patsy Hot-lips was a huge success, but the sudden stop was probably unavoidable, unluckily it happened just when it started to look good, in a time when the record company was willing to shower Andrew with dollar bills. When the time came for a second comeback it wasn't quite the same thing and it's like it's been downhill from there. If it had been up to me I would've liked to see things done slightly different, I had chosen other songs for the singles for example, apart from More, More was great. And I would have tried to put a little more effort in the b-sides, instead of just slapping a few bootleg-live songs on there. And, I know I may be alone in this, I wouldn't have bothered with Tim Bricheno. After all, his contribution to the album was marginal and I would have liked a trio better, instead of a new version of the four boys in a van. From there everything slowly died out again and then there were the UTG single. Wich was good. It could easily have been just as frequently played as I Would Do Anything For Love, by MeatLoaf, that was released at the same time, but the video for UTG sucked, MeatLoafs... eh, did too, but not in the same way, because it must have costed millions of dollars to shoot and therefore it was played a lot on MTV. The record company didn't feel quite like showering Andrew with anything anymore and we all know what happened after that. The plan to release independent singles could have worked well enough. It could have gotten the Sisters a little well-deserved respect back, but alas it's been put on hold. A comeback at this stage would have to be extraordinary in some senses, like many of you have pointed out, in order to pay off, and Andrew most likely knows that too. Another missed shot at greatness and big bucks? I don't know. Maybe the ol' champ will rise to the challenge and answer the bell. Like good old Hemingway. Or fade away like some Fitzgerald, but I hope not. Time will tell. I still hold a world of respect for Andrew and I don't think the Sisters blown their cool, just sat out on a number of opportunities perhaps.
Posted: 19 Jun 2003, 15:09
by MrChris
I just want to know what he does all day...
Posted: 19 Jun 2003, 15:23
by Quiff Boy
Snub Nose wrote:alright, you asked
watching jerry springer, reading the dross on this forum, playing
doom and lemmings. scanning japanese comics and making strange
icons out of them. and drinking milky tea.
AE
arf! sounds about right...
you really think eldritch is desperate enough to read this cr*p?
cool!
Posted: 19 Jun 2003, 17:52
by slicepack
Spend an hour or so trawling through old messages here, you'll soon find out who's who...
:wink:
Posted: 19 Jun 2003, 22:44
by Vox
If Spig is reading this then I hope he realises that many of the negative comments expressed are born from a true sense of frustration a lot of Sisters fans are feeling fuelled by a genuine love for his band.
I (at one time) wanted The Sisters to be the biggest band in the world but
I look at AE now and I think "you don't deserve it, you've been a difficult bustard". I don't have anything to gain by AE failing, I'd much rather see him on Top of The Pops than down the Leeds Benefit Office.
The post- Vision Thing Sisters have been the best example of a band treading water and I say to AE "why bother?, if you're gonna do it half-arsed then why do it at all?" Although The Sisters half-arsed is still a million times better than 99% of the bands out there.
It's like your favourite sitcom that's just gone on too long and has become self-aware to the point of self-parody.
Bruhn, Eldritch and James together looked cool as feck. I was one of the few that lamented Tony James's departure, I think he could have been a perfect foil for AE. Bricheno always looked out of place, "there's the bloke from All About Eve trying to look cool and hard".
Vox
Posted: 20 Jun 2003, 09:52
by MrChris
In the unlikely event that Mr Taylor IS reading all of these messages, I'd like to request a signed copy of the When You Don't See Me CD single. I foolishly sold mine about ten years ago, and I very much miss the live version of Ribbons, which sounds like Armageddon turned up to 11. Oh, and nice weather for Saturday week, I'm having a farewell barbecue.
Posted: 22 Jun 2003, 04:30
by dead stars
Well, if he does read this, he could at least identify himself and answer some posts. I'm sure people don't bite and if they do, I'm also sure he can bite back and better.
Posted: 22 Jun 2003, 04:34
by dead stars
I've got something I'd like Mr. Eldritch to comment but in his absence I'll ask you people. I don't like - I really don't - to walk into a regular users - read non giths - bar and they're playing "more" and everybody's singing but if you ask anyone who is playing, they don't have a clue.
I don't know about you but it gets on my nerves. Maybe it's just because it's my favourite band. Maybe it's because the words are easy listening and catchy and people just sing it the same they go "sex bomb sex bomb, you're my sex bomb"...
It's annoying.
Posted: 22 Jun 2003, 11:59
by MrEddy
dead inside wrote:I've got something I'd like Mr. Eldritch to comment but in his absence I'll ask you people. I don't like - I really don't - to walk into a regular users - read non giths - bar and they're playing "more" and everybody's singing but if you ask anyone who is playing, they don't have a clue.
I don't know about you but it gets on my nerves. Maybe it's just because it's my favourite band. Maybe it's because the words are easy listening and catchy and people just sing it the same they go "sex bomb sex bomb, you're my sex bomb"...
It's annoying.
I'm a little suprised that you have the time to ponder other people's appreciation of the 'Sisters at times like these. If MORE is playing, I'm usually to be found doing something sloppy and mistaken...
*MrEddy is lost in reverie, whiskey grin broadly applied*
Posted: 23 Jun 2003, 17:46
by Moz Magister
Has everybody forgotten whose band it is?
He can do what the f**k he likes; if I like it, I'll listen; if I don't, I'll throw beer at him & go somewhere else.
Surely as an artist it's up to him what he does and if he ever starts pandering to a bunch of whining kids who want a hero I'll shoot him myself.
Posted: 23 Jun 2003, 22:40
by Gripper
At last- a little bit of perspective.
Moz tells it like it is- Eldritch doesn't owe any of us an ounce of listening pleasure. The deal is: he makes the records when he feels like, we buy the records if we feel like. When the guy needed the cash or the adoration, or (maybe) to satisfy some creative drive, then he got round to doing something about it. In between times, he did something else, didn't wonder what we were doing and why we hadn't been in touch, and certainly didn't sit around waiting. And, before someone quotes something about Eldritch bemoaning lost fans or disinterested record companies, doesn't it strike you that the guy might just be a little more intelligent than to fall into that particular trap? He knows what he's doing, and what he's doing is up to him.
The truth is that the real world is out there. The Sisters are only a small part of it, and it's up to you to make YOUR part of YOUR world better. If the two parts happen to collide gloriously now and again, well, great. If they don't, are you going to just sit there complaining?
As I wrote in response to Erudite's original post:
Gripper wrote:
As we all have done repeatedly over the years, let's just go away and find something better to do with our time until....well, until the time comes.
Keep the faith
Posted: 24 Jun 2003, 08:03
by slicepack
Gripper wrote: And, before someone quotes something about Eldritch bemoaning lost fans or disinterested record companies, doesn't it strike you that the guy might just be a little more intelligent than to fall into that particular trap?
He's got no record deal and recently played in a succession of tiny venues. What am I to adduce from this?
Posted: 24 Jun 2003, 09:42
by MrChris
I do agree that AE owes us nothing. I think it's great that Floodland exists, and no-one is going to take my copy! Over and above that, everything else is a bonus. I only feel cheated sometimes when I hear (usually false) rumours about impending product.
But I don't think that most of them come from AE. I don't think AE has a grand plan. If he is as intelligent as a lot of people think, then he realises that the world doesn't work like that, and that we all make mistakes. Which is a shame, really. But as someday everything we need ISN'T going to fall from the sky, we take what we can, when we can get it. For most people here, that means living on planet bootleg for years on end, eating counterfeit scraps from the master's table...
Have the Sisters blown their cool?
Posted: 29 Jun 2003, 12:23
by shiney
I have been a fan since 1986 when someone I had just met made me listen to FALAA...come to think of it, where is
she now?!
Anyway, I have a bit of an interest in the characteristics of western and eastern birth signs. Andrew was born on 15th May 1959 so that makes him a Taurus/Pig.
"Powerful people they are, and impenetrable as well. But when they are working or just thinking, you need a power-driven crowbar to enter their concentration aura. This ability to persevere alone, nibbling slowly every day at a huge amount of work is what gives the Taurus/Pig his ticket to success. Everything this person does is tinged with victory."
Still, 10+ years is a bit extreme. We may need something more dramatic than a crowbar......
I still love the sisters really. I moved house 3 years ago and only recently managed to get hold of and unpack my records (having stopped myself from buying them all again - I only slipped once, phew!). It was almost like rediscovering them again, the same old excitement and deafness-causing dr. avalanche boom-boom.
Maybe that's the thing to do - hide the records for several years....then here we go again!
Posted: 29 Jun 2003, 12:38
by Big Si
Hi and welcome to Heartland!
Posted: 29 Jun 2003, 17:06
by Thea
the sisters just toured - what more d'ya want?
imma give it a few more months before i start whining about wanting a new album...
Posted: 29 Jun 2003, 18:50
by pikkrong
hi Shiney and welcome here
by the way, you look very cool (judging by your avatar)
Posted: 30 Jun 2003, 19:49
by shiney
pikkrong wrote:hi Shiney and welcome here
by the way, you look very cool (judging by your avatar)
Thank you Big Si!
Thank you pikkrong!
Not feeling so cool at the moment - I had an operation on my knee last week...just call me Hop-a-long for now (everyone else is!).
I went to Tallinn in the mid-nineties, from Helsinki on a day-trip, in October - what a blizzard! So, I didn't get to see much although the food was good (this is important!).
Posted: 30 Jun 2003, 22:21
by pikkrong
shiney wrote:
I went to Tallinn in the mid-nineties, from Helsinki on a day-trip, in October - what a blizzard!
blizzard in October - not very usual. but sometimes it happens. normally snow comes down in November or December here.