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Posted: 10 Jul 2011, 23:41
by stufarq
Going back to the discussion above about the meaning of the title, I heard someone on TV the other day (can't remember who or what programme) use it to mean "under pressure" as suggested by Being645.
Posted: 10 Jul 2011, 23:44
by lachert
stufarq wrote:Going back to the discussion above about the meaning of the title, I heard someone on TV the other day (can't remember who or what programme) use it to mean "under pressure" as suggested by Being645.
my english isn't good, but isn't obvious?
Posted: 12 Jul 2011, 00:30
by stufarq
lachert wrote:stufarq wrote:Going back to the discussion above about the meaning of the title, I heard someone on TV the other day (can't remember who or what programme) use it to mean "under pressure" as suggested by Being645.
my english isn't good, but isn't obvious?
Not necessarily. See below:
stufarq wrote:Being645 wrote:as far as I know "under the gun" is an old English idiom
which implies much more than merely "under pressure" ...
I don't think so. Certainly I've never heard it and can't find any references to it. It's a playing position in poker terminology, the person who has to act before anyone gets to see the shared cards ("I've been under the gun/I've lost and I've won... where the chosen hold the highest card/on the field of honour where the ground is hard/so the highest hand is joking wild/and the house soon fold and no-one stand"). It's also a pun. a play on "everything under the sun". And it had already been used as song and album titles by a few bands before Von used it.
Of course, knowing Von, he probably intended all meanings but the poker reference seems undeniable.
Posted: 12 Jul 2011, 00:59
by Being645
Yeah, I like that reference too.
It is surely right, but I don't think it's the only connotation intended here,
since gambling (with emotion and value) is only a symptom ...