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Quiff Boy wrote:

Dan wrote:45 degrees?? And concrete?? That's going to give the archaeologists in 2000 years something to wonder about. And with all the jingle jangle jewellery they'll assume he was a king.

the lost king of yorkshire

Reference that with him lying in state.

Lenin, Chairman Mao, and Sir Jimmy.

The unholy trinity.

DeWinter wrote:

stufarq wrote:

DeWinter wrote:Well, it does have it's plus points. The UK is never likely to have a Chirac, Berlusconi, Bush or Clinton thanks to the press here. Their propensity for dirt-digging would have rendered them unelectable.

So we don't get anyone with a colourful past but we do get Thatcher, Blair, Brown...

I think "colourful" is a polite way to describe the above! Sleazy at best, criminal at worst. Neither Thatcher or Brown could be accused of that, whatever you think of their politics.

Criminal would have to be proven and would have to seriously compromise their ability to do the job. Sleaze is nobody's business. Illegal crusades in Iraq, turning statesmanlike politics into gutter sniping and being utterly pointless* do and are. My point is that muck raking to render some people unelectable isn't particularly justifiable when it doesn't get rid of utter shits as well.



*Or, if you want a real crime, ruining the economy.

stufarq wrote:

DeWinter wrote:

stufarq wrote: So we don't get anyone with a colourful past but we do get Thatcher, Blair, Brown...

I think "colourful" is a polite way to describe the above! Sleazy at best, criminal at worst. Neither Thatcher or Brown could be accused of that, whatever you think of their politics.

Criminal would have to be proven and would have to seriously compromise their ability to do the job. Sleaze is nobody's business. Illegal crusades in Iraq, turning statesmanlike politics into gutter sniping and being utterly pointless* do and are. My point is that muck raking to render some people unelectable isn't particularly justifiable when it doesn't get rid of utter shits as well.



*Or, if you want a real crime, ruining the economy.

Completely agree to you stufarq ... and anyway, savage b/w media advocate, inform and create savage b/w clientele politics and, IMHO, savage means, conventions and manners ...

Quiff Boy wrote:just to drag it back on topic briefly:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-yo ... e-15667111

The cortege went to Woodlands Cemetery where he was buried at an angle of 45 degrees facing the sea.

buried at an angle of 45 degrees? and

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-yo ... e-15717221

Sir Jimmy Savile's coffin has been encased in concrete as a "security measure" amid speculation about its contents.

encased in concrete?

wtf? does anyone else find this to be an increasingly bizarre funeral/burial?

Sounds remarkably similar to the safety measures for depleted uranium rods!

stufarq wrote: *Or, if you want a real crime, ruining the economy.

You'd have to look pretty hard to find a well-run economy anywhere. The US is broke, China/India use their population as disposable slave labour, and as for Continental Europe..one half near bankrupt, the other half owning all their debts and installing puppet politicians on the others so they don't default.

DeWinter wrote:

Quiff Boy wrote:just to drag it back on topic briefly:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-yo ... e-15667111

The cortege went to Woodlands Cemetery where he was buried at an angle of 45 degrees facing the sea.

buried at an angle of 45 degrees? and

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-yo ... e-15717221

Sir Jimmy Savile's coffin has been encased in concrete as a "security measure" amid speculation about its contents.

encased in concrete?

wtf? does anyone else find this to be an increasingly bizarre funeral/burial?

Sounds remarkably similar to the safety measures for depleted uranium rods!

"The BBC is planning a one-off Jim'll Fix It special with Shane Ritchie in the chair."

Sacrilege.

Jim'll Be Turning in his Grave (Or At Least He Would If It Weren't For the Concrete).