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Posted: 10 Feb 2012, 18:39
by DeWinter
Aazhyd wrote:DeWinter wrote:musicians can make far more money through merchandise and touring than they will ever see from album sales. Eldo obviously came to this conclusion far earlier than many, being a smart cookie.
This is only smart if people actually know your band still exists. A record is still a great and necessary marketing publicity tool.
Also you're trying to say that Eldritch has foreseen this all and deliberately did not release a new album because of it. I think that's quite unlikely, considering the number of gigs they do and the number of actual merchandise that we can get.
He didn't forsee it as such, as actually have it happen. He was broke after the Vision Thing tour and naturally asked how the hell that happened when he'd just released an album. I'm pretty sure the story is on the rather drab website somewhere, or was.
I would also say one of the things about "cult" bands is they tend to have pretty devoted followings. In the case of Sisters fans it's damn near masochistic. They'd carry on going to the gigs if it consisted of nothing but dry ice and Eldritch playing Burt Bacarach tunes with a kazoo inserted between his buttocks. He can rely on a steady paycheque.
Posted: 10 Feb 2012, 19:41
by million voices
I think Eldo, or rather his buttocks, on the kazoo would make a refreshing change to the somewhat formulaic live performance.
Posted: 10 Feb 2012, 22:31
by Being645
million voices wrote:I think Eldo, or rather his buttocks, on the kazoo would make a refreshing change to the somewhat formulaic live performance.
Don't know why that sounds in a way
similar to this ...
Posted: 11 Feb 2012, 00:03
by stufarq
DeWinter wrote:They'd carry on going to the gigs if it consisted of nothing but dry ice and Eldritch playing Burt Bacarach tunes with a kazoo inserted between his buttocks.
For all we know that's what he
has been doing.
Posted: 11 Feb 2012, 14:45
by million voices
That's not me doing the Wikipedia entries - I don't even have the computer knowhow to bring Being645's comment down into this box
It is just that I get a bit miffed with what is basically an 80's greatest hits band trying to pass themselves off as still relevant when they have done absolutely chuff all to back up the claim.
If it wasn't for the fanatical following they would be on the same circuit as ABC and Kajagoogoo
Posted: 11 Feb 2012, 18:57
by Being645
million voices wrote:That's not me doing the Wikipedia entries - I don't even have the computer knowhow to bring Being645's comment down into this box ...
Good, you say so ...
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million voices wrote:
It is just that I get a bit miffed with what is basically an 80's greatest hits band trying to pass themselves off as still relevant when they have done absolutely chuff all to back up the claim. If it wasn't for the fanatical following ...
Honestly, I can't see any effort or claim on their part to "pass themselves off as still relevant" ...
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They have done loads of concerts, though ever since - based on new songs they've written, registered and performed live,
while their "fanatical" fanbase has constantly been weeping, screaming, complaining and even harassing them to have them play old (irrelevant) stuff ...
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million voices wrote:
... they would be on the same circuit as ABC and Kajagoogoo
... thats where they had got to, if Wayne's dearest dreams had come true ...
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Posted: 11 Feb 2012, 22:16
by stufarq
million voices wrote:If it wasn't for the fanatical following they would be on the same circuit as ABC and Kajagoogoo
That's grossly unfair. ABC still release the occasional album.
Posted: 12 Feb 2012, 12:37
by markfiend
stufarq wrote:million voices wrote:If it wasn't for the fanatical following they would be on the same circuit as ABC and Kajagoogoo
That's grossly unfair. ABC still release the occasional album.
Posted: 12 Feb 2012, 23:08
by Nikolas Vitus Lagartija
Being645 wrote: Almost all magazines in the world know them - and these old stories.
Recently, most of them have even learned to overcome and look beyond that outworn Goth-Overlord-Thingy.
Almost all magazines - including some very famous ones
http://tmagazine.blogs.nytimes.com/tag/ ... -of-mercy/
Not sure they've all forgotten about the Goth-Overlord-Thingy though !
Posted: 13 Feb 2012, 13:40
by Being645
Nikolas Vitus Lagartija wrote:Being645 wrote: Almost all magazines in the world know them - and these old stories.
Recently, most of them have even learned to overcome and look beyond that outworn Goth-Overlord-Thingy.
Almost all magazines - including some very famous ones
http://tmagazine.blogs.nytimes.com/tag/ ... -of-mercy/
Not sure they've all forgotten about the Goth-Overlord-Thingy though !
... creating another (hopefully large) crowd of goth rock Sisters addicts confronted with surprising realities at the gigs ...
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Posted: 13 Feb 2012, 13:45
by Machine Regime
Being645 wrote:Nikolas Vitus Lagartija wrote:Being645 wrote: Almost all magazines in the world know them - and these old stories.
Recently, most of them have even learned to overcome and look beyond that outworn Goth-Overlord-Thingy.
Almost all magazines - including some very famous ones
http://tmagazine.blogs.nytimes.com/tag/ ... -of-mercy/
Not sure they've all forgotten about the Goth-Overlord-Thingy though !
... creating another (hopefully large) crowd of goth rock Sisters addicts confronted with surprising realities at the gigs ...
...
Top prize most go to that article for the most tenuous and specious reference to the Sisters ever...
Posted: 13 Feb 2012, 14:35
by Being645
Machine Regime wrote:Being645 wrote:
... creating another (hopefully large) crowd of goth rock Sisters addicts confronted with surprising realities at the gigs ...
...
Top prize most go to that article for the most tenuous and specious reference to the Sisters ever...
At least they've set a direct link to The Sisters' homepage which says at very first sight:
We are a rock'n'roll band. And a pop band. And an industrial groove machine.