Heartland

Rhombus did it with no problem and although they are all excellent musicians they are all music business part-timers as in they all hold down full-time jobs as well.

even more revealing the march violets managed it and though they are full-time musicians i'm sure mr denbigh would agree that organisational skills are not his forte. if they were the batfish boys would have been huge and made glorious would have been released in 1988.
if drug-taking well-meaning lunch-out rock stars can do it then it cant be that hard. theres enough brains here on HL to do it if we had von's blessing.

oh where is Our Chairman when we need him?

I keep my fingers crossed for a new album, but I'm certainly not holding my breath.

As far as known recorded output goes, I have a hard time believing he'd be worried of tarnishing his legacy with many of the known unreleased tracks at the very least. Most of those are old standards by now, many going on two decades. Summer and Crash And Burn are still being played last I checked, and I don't think enough years have passed since some of Adam's other songs haven't made an appearance to warrant really thinking the lion's share of his work's being distanced away from the band or anything. Setlists just need shuffling from time to time.

The only bits of unreleased stuff I'd say seem have been really shelved are Come Together and War On Drugs, retired since 2006. And WOD's an Andrew composition.

And while it may come off as unseemly to have the current lineup record songs written by folks no longer even in the band (think I remember saying that at some point?), surely it couldn't be...too much of a personal issue? Would Chris or Ben really be offended? After all they've been playing them live going on a decade plus now.

Personally, I love the majority of Adam's compositions a fair bit more than I like certain tracks on VT, if that's not too heretical to say. I'm still scouring recordings to find the best live takes of 'em. Every good one I find's a revelation.

Were the splits with Adam and Mike amicable at least? Maybe Von's trying to work out a deal...

war on drugs is a great song; far better than arms and very "sisters-y" for the traditionalists. come together is the only song ever by the band which i actively dislike. summer is one of my top 5 favourite sisters songs (if such a thing existed -i could never narrow it down to 5 ).

Agreed on WOD, but I do enjoy Come Together a great deal. If by some chance there's a North American tour this year I'd certainly not complain if they both made a return.

Arms I can't get into very much as, well...Killing Joke's Millennium is an old favorite of mine. Comparisons etc.

I generally like and/or love the unreleased songs. I'd love to hear them recorded in the same production style as Alice 93 (which always brings to mind what might have been, but wasn't).

And count me as one of the Come Together folks - I think it's one of my favorites. The first time I heard it (on the old Come Together in Mercyland bootleg, purchased from a suitable shady record store in Texas) I got chills.

Sadly, I don't think any of these songs will see the light of day as official releases. Abandon Hope, All Ye... and so on and so forth.

Being645 wrote:we all would buy it

All thirty or forty of us? A few diehard fans aren't enough to justify the costs. Even the numbers attending the concerts probably wouldn't be enough to make a profit.

Being645 wrote:The Sisters of Mercy are a widely reknown band ... and most people still have them in good memory

Most people under forty have never heard of them. Most people over forty remember them as that weird goth band who had a couple of unlikely hits. The market no longer exists for a record label release - especially not a major one with the huge budget Von unrealistically thinks the band can still command.

eastmidswhizzkid wrote:If you cowrite a song with someone, both of you own the song as "joint-owners" of what the copyright law calls a "joint work". This is irrespective of whether one of you writes the music and the other the lyrics, or you both write music and lyrics. Both of you have an "undivided" ownership in the song (i.e., you each own 50% of the whole song). There is not a separate copyright in the music and lyrics. There is one copyright in both.

Not in the UK. Music and lyrics are protected separately, with lyrics being classed as a literary work.
https://www.prsformusic.com/SiteCollect ... uction.pdf

eastmidswhizzkid wrote: As a joint-owner you are legally entitled to exploit the song by yourself without needing the permission of any other joint owner . in fact you are entitled to grant nonexclusive licenses to others without needing the permission of the other joint-owner(s). as mechanical licenses (permission to record songs) are non-exclusive, if alvin and the chipmunks wanted to record "summer" and eldritch ok'd it there wouldnt be a damn thing adam could do to stop them. (try not to dwell too long on that thought -it's soul-shudderingly WRONG lol).

so the "adam wont let us record" argument is non-existent.

It's valid if the music and lyrics will be owned separately. In addition, as professional songwriters, Adam and Von will probably have an agreement in place regarding exploitation and ownership, which may well preclude either of them unilaterally licensing a song that's genuinely joint-owned (because they co-wrote either the music or the lyrics).

sultan2075 wrote:I generally like and/or love the unreleased songs. I'd love to hear them recorded in the same production style as Alice 93 (which always brings to mind what might have been, but wasn't).

And count me as one of the Come Together folks - I think it's one of my favorites. The first time I heard it (on the old Come Together in Mercyland bootleg, purchased from a suitable shady record store in Texas) I got chills.

Sadly, I don't think any of these songs will see the light of day as official releases. Abandon Hope, All Ye... and so on and so forth.

I doubt it would sound the same as previous music style wise, for all Von can be criticised for he does seem to be good at doing very different musical styles yet getting them to still have a connection. I think it is superb that FALAA, Floodland and Vision Thing are in the general scheme of rock and roll extremely different, far better than people or bands that release the same F***ing record over and over. So who knows if miracle of all miracles they actually released something, garage surf music or full on photo metal (see Blue Cheer over Iron Maiden).

Alex66 wrote:

sultan2075 wrote:I generally like and/or love the unreleased songs. I'd love to hear them recorded in the same production style as Alice 93 (which always brings to mind what might have been, but wasn't).

And count me as one of the Come Together folks - I think it's one of my favorites. The first time I heard it (on the old Come Together in Mercyland bootleg, purchased from a suitable shady record store in Texas) I got chills.

Sadly, I don't think any of these songs will see the light of day as official releases. Abandon Hope, All Ye... and so on and so forth.

I doubt it would sound the same as previous music style wise, for all Von can be criticised for he does seem to be good at doing very different musical styles yet getting them to still have a connection. I think it is superb that FALAA, Floodland and Vision Thing are in the general scheme of rock and roll extremely different, far better than people or bands that release the same F***ing record over and over. So who knows if miracle of all miracles they actually released something, garage surf music or full on photo metal (see Blue Cheer over Iron Maiden).

Oh yes, I'm sure they would be different - really just saying I liked the direction suggested by the UtG b-side. As for putting out the same album over and over, Motörhead and the Ramones would like a word with you

stufarq wrote:... especially not a major one with the huge budget Von unrealistically thinks the band can still command.

I'm quite sure doesn't think so nowadays ... ...