Re: Totally Insane fb
Posted: 12 Apr 2021, 23:41
Very well said! I stand corrected. Haha. X
Elitism is hopefully dead, but irony clearly isn't!
Well, I'd hate anyone to feel hurt (and I'm not sure if you're relating your comment to me specifically).LyanvisAberrant wrote: ↑12 Apr 2021, 17:48 You guys just come off as very judgemental. Not trying to be confrontational, but just like... be aware of how you treat others, and why it is that you feel these people are lesser than you for enjoying the same thing but in a different way.
Elitism isn't dead.
He used to be gay when he was in The Merry Thoughts.robertzombie wrote: ↑13 Apr 2021, 12:37 Anyway, does anyone else think Eldritch is married? I noticed he wears a wedding ring and I don't think it's been mentioned before. I really need to know.
So what is Kitchen towels called in Europe? I don't mind the endless videos or the speculation from young/new fans. It's the 'you can't be a proper goth because....' from people old enough to know better that irk me. Or I hate (insert band member as appropriate) because of things that occurred over three decades ago. Or the abuse of Patricia though some people who were on here didn't exactly cover themselves in glory on that account either.
Hmmm. I wonder now you've said that, if the person I was interacting with thought that I meant "you can't be a goth if you like the smiths". It would be a fair accusation of "elitism" if someone said that.
No. The "she didn't play on the records" stuff is pure sophistry on Eldritch's part, and I wish people would quit it.
Wonder why anyone think the Smiths were goth? Maudlin perhaps but not goth. Though I would have loved to have been there when they played on the same bill as the Sisters! I do like the Smiths though I don't listen to them as much as I used to. Morrissey going off his head hasn't helped either.markfiend wrote: ↑13 Apr 2021, 13:44Hmmm. I wonder now you've said that, if the person I was interacting with thought that I meant "you can't be a goth if you like the smiths". It would be a fair accusation of "elitism" if someone said that.
But it wasn't what I said. The Smiths were never a "goth" band (whatever that means). At least, they were never associated (as far as I know) with the goth "thing" at all while they were a going concern. Certainly none of the "goth nights" I went to in the 80s or 90s would ever have played them either.
No. The "she didn't play on the records" stuff is pure sophistry on Eldritch's part, and I wish people would quit it.
As for the "fat" "jokes", well they're just plain offensive.
Thinking back to nights out in early 80's Leeds. If we were 'dancing' rather than 'drinking' we'd be at the Uni Thursday Bop, the Saturday Poly Disco, the Phono early in the week or the Warehouse if we felt rich after the Fav at the weekend. The Smiths were rarely, if ever, played as it tended to get too frantic and violence usually ensued. We'd also hit Brannigans or Scrumpies but they were mostly heavy rock places in those days and Leeds rockers didn't dance, they'd just headbang. The Phono was obviously the 'gothiest' in those days but nobody really called it goth, it was just alternative. They'd play new wave, punk, rock and 70s sleazy cheesy stuff as the bogs flooded. I'd hate to think that was the inspiration for Floodland.abridged wrote: ↑13 Apr 2021, 15:52 Wonder why anyone think the Smiths were goth? Maudlin perhaps but not goth. Though I would have loved to have been there when they played on the same bill as the Sisters! I do like the Smiths though I don't listen to them as much as I used to. Morrissey going off his head hasn't helped either.
I remember the good old days when if you rocked up in leeds in a Man United shirt you got your head kicked in, and even if you didn't and just rocked up in Leeds, probability was youd get your head kicked in leaving the station. Fun times. The Banshee, phono, planet x... All dives in hindsight, but they were our dives.Swinnow wrote: ↑13 Apr 2021, 19:50Thinking back to nights out in early 80's Leeds. If we were 'dancing' rather than 'drinking' we'd be at the Uni Thursday Bop, the Saturday Poly Disco, the Phono early in the week or the Warehouse if we felt rich after the Fav at the weekend. The Smiths were rarely, if ever, played as it tended to get too frantic and violence usually ensued. We'd also hit Brannigans or Scrumpies but they were mostly heavy rock places in those days and Leeds rockers didn't dance, they'd just headbang. The Phono was obviously the 'gothiest' in those days but nobody really called it goth, it was just alternative. They'd play new wave, punk, rock and 70s sleazy cheesy stuff as the bogs flooded. I'd hate to think that was the inspiration for Floodland.abridged wrote: ↑13 Apr 2021, 15:52 Wonder why anyone think the Smiths were goth? Maudlin perhaps but not goth. Though I would have loved to have been there when they played on the same bill as the Sisters! I do like the Smiths though I don't listen to them as much as I used to. Morrissey going off his head hasn't helped either.
There is. It's herepaint it black wrote: ↑13 Apr 2021, 19:10 Pretty cool resource I just found wouldn't it be great if there were a Wikipedia of sisters stuff. Like this site
http://www.lak.co.za/pib/
You're joking. But there is indeed a wonderful Wikipedia page, even in several languages ... ...Pista wrote: ↑13 Apr 2021, 21:56There is. It's herepaint it black wrote: ↑13 Apr 2021, 19:10 Pretty cool resource I just found wouldn't it be great if there were a Wikipedia of sisters stuff. Like this site
http://www.lak.co.za/pib/
Wow! Cool I'll show my momBeing645 wrote: ↑13 Apr 2021, 22:37You're joking. But there is indeed a wonderful Wikipedia page, even in several languages ... ...Pista wrote: ↑13 Apr 2021, 21:56There is. It's herepaint it black wrote: ↑13 Apr 2021, 19:10 Pretty cool resource I just found wouldn't it be great if there were a Wikipedia of sisters stuff. Like this site
http://www.lak.co.za/pib/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sisters_of_Mercy
paint it black wrote: ↑13 Apr 2021, 23:18Wow! Cool I'll show my mom
She likes Dominion and Ribbons best
The Smiths were always rubbish though.Silver_Owl wrote: ↑13 Apr 2021, 14:02 The Smiths are to goff what The Cheeky Girls are to womens lib.
There was a bonkers reply to that the other day where someone opined that "I always thought Andrew wore a wedding ring as an ironic metaphor for possession and the validity or otherwise of relationships in the modern age" or something akin to that at least. Which obviously shattered my long held opinion that it was his Mum's and he'd added it to his Goff jewellery collection.robertzombie wrote: ↑13 Apr 2021, 12:37 Anyway, does anyone else think Eldritch is married? I noticed he wears a wedding ring and I don't think it's been mentioned before. I really need to know.