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Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 12:53
by smiscandlon
d00mw0lf wrote:
smiscandlon wrote:
Rosalie wrote:I'm not talking about all people, only some people, and the loophole this creates that allows homophones and racists to still have so much power in this world.
Tee hee.

"Homophones".

:lol:
Gay telephones? on our messageboard?!
Whatever next....?
Back to the original topic. Is this the gay answer to the Batphone?

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 12:55
by markfiend
Rosalie wrote:I'm not talking about all people, only some people, and the loophole this creates that allows homophobes and racists to still have so much power in this world.
Oh right I get you now. You mean that some people's moral relativism/nihilism seems to excuse racism, homophobia as "another point of view and all points of view are equal" kind of thing?

Then I agree with you. And well, my "naked rampant" line can serve as a rebuke to them. ;) Bloody post-modernists :evil: :lol:

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 13:00
by Izzy HaveMercy
Pah.

I agree with Rosalie on one part, about Super being more like a role-model for homosexual comic-strip geeks, but following Dark's advice, gimme mister Crow any time. The comics as well as the first movie.(and when I'm in the mood, the second)

Or Sin City! Man, I just saw the movie a couple of days ago and it RULES!

And when are they going to do a decent filming of T.H.U.N.D.E.R. agents? ;)

IZ.

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 13:01
by Rosalie
d00mw0lf wrote:
smiscandlon wrote:
Rosalie wrote:I'm not talking about all people, only some people, and the loophole this creates that allows homophones and racists to still have so much power in this world.
Tee hee.

"Homophones".

:lol:
Gay telephones? on our messageboard?!
Whatever next....?
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Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 13:03
by Rosalie
smiscandlon wrote:
d00mw0lf wrote:
smiscandlon wrote: Tee hee.

"Homophones".

:lol:
Gay telephones? on our messageboard?!
Whatever next....?
Back to the original topic. Is this the gay answer to the Batphone?
Bat man or Batty boy, one does wonder...

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 13:03
by smiscandlon
As if a Dalek didn't already look enough like a novelty dildo.

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 13:09
by Rosalie
I like my new Gay Dalek.

I think I'll call him Francis ;)

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 13:10
by Dark
Rosalie wrote:This is a message board, not a Wah Wah pedal or Analog Synth.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
:notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:

Best line you've ever given, Rosalie, good work. 8)

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 14:10
by lazarus corporation
smiscandlon wrote:
d00mw0lf wrote:
smiscandlon wrote: Buggery bollocks. Just watched The War Games, and the Doctor is thoroughly affronted when the War Chief suggests that they're two of a kind.

So there. :P
Well you would be, wouldn't you?
In Shada, the Doctor notes that Salyavin (a criminal mastermind) was "a boyhood hero" of his.
In the last series - he told the Dalek "god" he would always take the coward's way out.
He was exiled to Earth for faffing about with other planets and pissing the timelords off.
His future regeneration (The Valeyard) was pure evil - he even brought Colin baker's regeneration back to gallifrey, put him on trial and then tried to kill him.
Ok, so the doc's not "just evil" but he can hardly be considered a good guy either.
He'll always be a good guy to me. :kiss:
The Doctor is a renegade due to his anti-authoritarian viewpoint, but not from a good/evil standpoint since his morality seems within the accepted boundaries of his culture.

His attitude to authority is frequently depicted as being irreverant - something which is seen as bad/evil by those who like strict social hierarchies, and as good by those who dislike them.

So clearly he can be a renegade at the same time as being a good guy, but only if you take a relativist viewpoint on morality (like most intelligent honest people do who aren't fundamentalist religious nutters, terrorists, politicians or the Daily Mail).

And as a postscript, he's a fictional character scripted by a legion of different writers over the past 40+ years for a light-entertainment TV show - I hardly think that you can expect editorial consistency of that standard for a show scripted by so many people over so long a period of time. Sheesh.

Who are you people?

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Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 14:39
by Thea
lazarus corporation wrote:
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What's that about a picture being worth a thousand words? :lol:

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 14:42
by smiscandlon
lazarus corporation wrote:And as a postscript, he's a fictional character scripted by a legion of different writers over the past 40+ years for a light-entertainment TV show - I hardly think that you can expect editorial consistency of that standard for a show scripted by so many people over so long a period of time. Sheesh.
Not sure I agree. Surely the "editorial consistency" is that no matter how morally ambigious the situations the character's been placed in, he always strives to do what is "right" (free the oppressed, stop the fighting, protect the innocent etc.). That's been pretty constant throughout the history of the programme.

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 14:43
by smiscandlon
d00mw0lf wrote:What's that about a picture being worth a thousand words? :lol:
Worst ... cliche ... ever.

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 14:44
by Rosalie
Actually, even through his different regenerations, there has been quite a lot of consistancies of the character.

Keep in mind hundreds of years pass when we don't see him.

He starts out younger than 400(we're lead to believe), and ends up going over 900(Eccleston's Doctor).

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 14:48
by Thea
Rosalie wrote:Actually, even through his different regenerations, there has been quite a lot of consistancies of the character.

Keep in mind hundreds of years pass when we don't see him.

He starts out younger than 400(we're lead to believe), and ends up going over 900(Eccleston's Doctor).
But the doctor's age could vary due to lots of things such as the planet he's on (surley an Earth year is different to a Gallifreyan one?) and if he's using his "showbiz age" or not :lol: .

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 14:51
by Rosalie
He always gives his age in earth years, ever since Patrick Troughton says "Well, in your time.." in Tomb of the Cybermen.

But yeah, the Doctor probably lies about his age, a lot. He might not even know. It's never been that consistant.

What we do know though is that he went almost 400 years at least without a regeneration.

Where did he clock in another 500 years though? Don't the last ep of one series and the first of another usually run into each other in some form of another? I better read up on it.

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 15:01
by Thea
Rosalie wrote:He always gives his age in earth years, ever since Patrick Troughton says "Well, in your time.." in Tomb of the Cybermen.

But yeah, the Doctor probably lies about his age, a lot. He might not even know. It's never been that consistant.

What we do know though is that he went almost 400 years at least without a regeneration.

Where did he clock in another 500 years though? Don't the last ep of one series and the first of another usually run into each other in some form of another? I better read up on it.
Well, in the film, the master was put on trial and sentanced to death.
If his trial was anything like "Trial of a timelord" that'll be at LEAST 500 years! :lol: (it takes a special type of person to watch all of Trial in one go...)

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 15:23
by Rosalie
OH BOY COLIN BAKER!!!

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:D

Sorry, you mentioned ToaT >.<

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 15:52
by Thea
Gah. That picture is FAR too colourful for this time in the afternoon.

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 15:53
by Rosalie
OMG GOFF XD

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 16:03
by Thea
I'm not a goth. I'm more of a monochrome folk-punk.
Or a sepiatone bag lady on a bad day.

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 16:04
by Rosalie
Well I think you're lovely.

And other such polite reassurances :)

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 16:05
by Thea
Damn. There go my hopes of ever achieveing mutant chic.

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 16:09
by Rosalie
f**k that Dalek is pink. It barely looked that way when I was doing it, it was more whitey pink.

Now that I looked at it...

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Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 16:48
by rian
The swedish Kapten Zoom, from 1976 shild program on TV

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;D

Posted: 25 Jul 2005, 16:49
by markfiend
rian wrote:The swedish Kapten Zoom, from 1976 shild program on TV

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;D
Well well well a superhero drawing a pension?