Heartland

Izzy HaveMercy wrote:And what are the people thinking TODAY, after a good night's sleep and a bit more sober?

IZ.

It's real shame that the Whales dead, a lot of people put a lot of time and effort into saving it, it just seems to me that all the attempts over the years in trying to re float stranded Whales world wide ends like this, I can't recall any sucsess story's............can anyone?

MadameButterfly wrote:Johnny it is sad that this amazing being of nature has died...

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but on the other hand, those of us eating meat or other animals think of *hunger* at that moment and don't think twice as to what they are eating or how it got there...

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Discussing the point of 'to meat or not to meat' could become a quite vexing discussion, as far as I'm concerned. And it may be said that, while I eat meat and enjoy a good meal, I am rather concerned about the world, the people AND the animals (the species, not the band ).

But it IS a known fact that when something like this happens, a lot of people try to joke with it. It could be offensive to other people, but that's just their way to react to, and to cope with, such a sad story.

I think it is a bit more irritating that people start name-calling without much reason and say that a lot of people here don't care about other people.

Rather the opposite has happened when James got all best wishes, and we were very concerned about Zaltys7 and even started a search for him, to name but a few.

Calling names is easy. But be very sparse with it, and remember to tell the world WHY you do it. It is called 'a reason'. Name-calling for no reason whatsoever has started many a war in the past. And I don't mean on the forum

IZ.

Seems I started this with my rather tactless post on the death of this creature.
Apologies people.

No problemo for me

IZ.

Pat wrote:Seems I started this with my rather tactless post on the death of this creature.
Apologies people.

It wasn't dead when you started it.

Pat wrote:Seems I started this with my rather tactless post on the death of this creature.
Apologies people.

Eh, s**t happens. On this forum it seems to happen quite often.

Pat wrote:

Brideoffrankenstein wrote:

Pat wrote:Opps ! now it's away to that old soap factory it the sky.

It hasn't has it?

clicky

Pat wrote:Seems I started this with my rather tactless post on the death of this creature.

Not really.

It's the bitching that bothers me .

I really don't know what to say

In the sober light of day, my post does seem rather extreme, I had consumed too much wine and I had other problems on my mind. Not much of an excuse, I know, so...

I apologise to all and sundry
sorry folks

Your post was barely extreme. You just said "Fud" and left us to "fight amongst ourselves".

If Johnny can't take that, that's not your problem.

thank you Korin, I mean that

Wot Dark said. Sorry John .

But is it not you who says yourself... berating people on open forum is not fab or groovy.

MadameButterfly wrote:Johnny it is sad that this amazing being of nature has died...

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but on the other hand, those of us eating meat or other animals think of *hunger* at that moment and don't think twice as to what they are eating or how it got there...

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Izzy HaveMercy wrote:Discussing the point of 'to meat or not to meat' could become a quite vexing discussion, as far as I'm concerned. And it may be said that, while I eat meat and enjoy a good meal, I am rather concerned about the world, the people AND the animals (the species, not the band ).

Good evening IZ. This vexing discussion was not my intention either just a thought, not to knock anyone who does enjoy meat, I could have even taken the turn "let's feed the hungry now instead of letting yet another day pass that yet another person dies because that still happens too". AND it's good to know that you do care about the world, the people AND the animals.
So do I

Izzy HaveMercy wrote:But it IS a known fact that when something like this happens, a lot of people try to joke with it. It could be offensive to other people, but that's just their way to react to, and to cope with, such a sad story.

Couldn't agree with you more.

Izzy HaveMercy wrote:I think it is a bit more irritating that people start name-calling without much reason and say that a lot of people here don't care about other people.

Rather the opposite has happened when James got all best wishes, and we were very concerned about Zaltys7 and even started a search for him, to name but a few.

Indeed I agree with you here again and this is what HL is about to many posting on here. We do care about each other and most of us don't wish anything ill of someone else, but as we are a whole bunch of personalities that have good days and bad days, sometimes emotions can get the better of us when feeling passionate about a subject. Maybe the name-calling seems not to have a reason but maybe there is one?

Izzy HaveMercy wrote:Calling names is easy. But be very sparse with it, and remember to tell the world WHY you do it. It is called 'a reason'. Name-calling for no reason whatsoever has started many a war in the past. And I don't mean on the forum

IZ.

I have been a victim to this in the very early days, some will remember, some won't. It is nasty and if you are going to dish it out, ying yang yourself and be willing to receive a response. Well I did in my case, in PM form and once you kill each other, you say sorry, and then *in my case*, I also forgive because that is who I am if I want to love again. And loving people is easier IMO than holding a grudge.

No more wars please, I would have thought history is there for us to learn from our mistakes or the mistakes of others'

And all this for a Sunday evening!

No wars, MB but if you recall, you and Rosalie came online at the same time, as a Forum we were confused. Rosalie, well, she/he/it has gone and you have proved to be a top person
don't you dare go leaving us now Debs!

lets face it, the two together confused the hell out of everyone

Is it time for man 2 man baby oil and group hugs...

... or will a round of stabbin's do the trick?

I once experienced spending some time with dolphins. The feeling it gave me can't be described well....Very peaceful, calm, loving. Won't ever forget.

Reading that this beautiful whale died, makes me feel sad. It does!
Even if it is natural that some don't survive....I feel sad. Because to me THAT is natural.

I hope you HL-ers all have a nice day!

MadameButterfly wrote: Indeed I agree with you here again and this is what HL is about to many posting on here. We do care about each other and most of us don't wish anything ill of someone else, ....

True. but on the other hand HL was a lot more funny to read before it was all about this "love & grouphugs-to-everybody-hippie"-s**t.

I think most of the people on here know and appreciate Planet Daves humour.

I personally think it's very sad what happened to the whale, but I don't feel the slightest offended by the jokes in this thread and neither does Johnny except when he has his period.

I too intended no offence - just the humour of the situation. I don't find the death of any animal humourous.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAnyway...

There's rumours that the whale may originally have become disoriented after sonar tests off the coast of Kent.

markfiend wrote:AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAnyway...

There's rumours that the whale may originally have become disoriented after sonar tests off the coast of Kent.

Yeah - I heard that on radio 4 this morning. That and the hundreds of film crews and helicopters increasing the poor things stress levels.

Well let's just hope they don't take tips from the Oklahoma Highway Department on how to remove the body...



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canon docre wrote: I personally think it's very sad what happened to the whale, but I don't feel the slightest offended by the jokes in this thread and neither does Johnny except when he has his period.

So that's his / her secret. If I'd known, there'd have been more than just a kiss on offer last August, 'John'.

And for the record, though moved by the whale's predicament (though not nearly as moved as I am when one of me own fish pegs it), I can see the absurdity in anything. And find it funny. Cos I'm not uptight, see?

For example, while the nation, particularly the scouse bit, froths and foams at Mr Moustache's celebrations yesterday, I think it's one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

Hom_Corleone wrote:That and the hundreds of film crews and helicopters increasing the poor things stress levels.

Heh. Oh yeah.

Planet Dave wrote:For example, while the nation, particularly the scouse bit, froths and foams at Mr Moustache's celebrations yesterday, I think it's one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

I think the Blue three-quarters of Liverpool quite enjoyed it too.