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Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 11:01
by streamline
Why does everybody sound so down?
It sounds like it was simply a gig with bad sound and new band members to break in. Perhaps they simply could have done with a warm up gig somewhere - perhaps Las Vegas WAS the warm up gig!
It'll take them a few weeks to tighten up and then when they hit Europe they will be the mad unstoppable force we know and love.
Perhaps they are learning to play the old familiar stuff well before slipping in the new stuff (or maybe there isn't any).
Lets wait and see! They can only get better and better!
Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 11:04
by Ozpat
streamline wrote:Why does everybody sound so down?
It sounds like it was simply a gig with bad sound and new band members to break in. Perhaps they simply could have done with a warm up gig somewhere - perhaps Las Vegas WAS the warm up gig!
It'll take them a few weeks to tighten up and then when they hit Europe they will be the mad unstoppable force we know and love.
Perhaps they are learning to play the old familiar stuff well before slipping in the new stuff (or maybe there isn't any).
Lets wait and see! They can only get better and better!
Not down Jez. Slightly disappointed but far more excited and happy....
You might be right about that warming up. In 2003 the new song Slept wasn't performed in Amsterdam but was the gig(s) after. So let's wait and see what happens....
No interviews at all???
re:
Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 11:16
by Ocean Moves
I went to the afore mentioned Amsterdam gig, and it was the worst
Sisters gig i have been to. (apart from the Astoria in London night2:2001)
...and I've seen them 20 times or so.
that night they were not *bad*, just in warm up first-night-at-the-theatre
mode, and it wasnt too much fun, that's all.
Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 11:26
by Obviousman
Well, Tilburg last year definately
was a good first gig on the other hand...
Not a single interview for 52 gigs? Don't know what the not-so fanatic crowd will say of that
And not down either,
Jez
Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 11:27
by Planet Dave
TheBoyNextDoor wrote:Setlist from "Dominion":
VISION THING
DR. JEEP/DET BLVD MEDLY
RIBBONS
FLOOD I WITH HORRIBLE FEEDBACK
CRASH & BURN
ON THE WIRE/TEACHERS
SUZANNE MORE FEEDBACK
GIVING GROUND
SUMMER
DOMINION/MOTHER RUSSIA
WILL I DREAM
ALICE NEW INTRO
ANACONDA
ROMEO DOWN BEN ON BASS
FLOOD 2
NEVERLAND BEN ON BASS
LUCRETIA
TEMPLE OF LOVE
FIRST AND LAST AND ALWAYS
Far be it from me to say I told you so...
Not smug, just grittily realistic.
Re: re:
Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 11:46
by Ozpat
Ocean Moves wrote:I went to the afore mentioned Amsterdam gig, and it was the worst
Sisters gig i have been to. (apart from the Astoria in London night2:2001)
...and I've seen them 20 times or so.
that night they were not *bad*, just in warm up first-night-at-the-theatre
mode, and it wasnt too much fun, that's all.
I guess I'm just one of the few who actually liked this gig but that's another story....
Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 11:54
by canon docre
DerKoyote wrote:I want to make an interview with the Sisters, but the tour-manager says that there'll be no interviews at all.
What a surprise.
Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 12:17
by euphoria
canon docre wrote:DerKoyote wrote:I want to make an interview with the Sisters, but the tour-manager says that there'll be no interviews at all.
What a surprise.
Hm, I think it -is- a surprise. New guitar player, biggest tour ever, playing places they have never been to before. There are lots of topics with which you can avoid unpleasant questions about a new album
If it's true at all; I thought Andrew himself was now the tour-manager.
EDIT: Also, he did at least two interviews during Smoke&mirrors, in Warsaw and in London.
Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 13:22
by robertzombie
Did Von say "goodnight" or "goodbye?"
Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 13:26
by Ozpat
robertzombie wrote:Did Von say "goodnight" or "goodbye?"
I guess no "goodbye" (yet) as there are 51 gigs ahead.
Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 13:28
by czuczu
Reading between the lines it sounds like all the guitar parts & arrangements (apart from maybe Alice) are the same? This'd be the first time the line-up's changed without making any changes to the sound of the band...
I don't mind if they have a slow start - it's ages before they're playing a show I'm seeing
(I was at that A'dam show '03 - it was cack!)
Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 13:29
by doc P
Obviousman wrote:Well,
Tilburg last year definately
was a good first gig on the other hand...
Not a single interview for 52 gigs? Don't know what the not-so fanatic crowd will say of that
And not down either,
Jez
yup T´burg was a goodie
LV- setlist? more than disappointing imo
no cover , no surprise, no elvis tribute, no topniteout 
Well
Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 14:05
by PipoTheClown
Hmm, I was hoping that they would have a real bassplayer instead of the doctor this time... Makes you wonder, would there be a financial reason for not having a bass-player (to pay)?
Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 14:12
by dtsom
Bill Hicks wrote:Had a text from Scardypants at 6am this morning saying it was dreadfully disapointing.
That's a real shame for the people who made all that effort to get to LV.
I guess it was the first show of a long tour, Chris has been in hospital and they are under-rehearsed.
I seem to remember the York gig in 2001 having technical problems and a standard setlist, and that was with an established line-up!
YES AND TEH NEXT DAY IN LEEDS WAS ONE OF THE BEST SISTERS GIG EVER...(I KNOW WWHAT I SAYD,I WAS THERE) IT WILL GET BETTER,I´M TOTALLY SURE(IT´S A LONG TOUR....)
Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 14:14
by Smallstone
Please do not shoot the messanger - I am merely cutting and pasting this from UK gossip email round robin called Holey Moley - bit like Popbitch.. anyway...
"This is from the Sisters Of Mercy's current touring contract.
"The promoter must NOT USE any of the following terms, or any local translation of them, or any word derived from any of them, and will use his best endeavours to avoid using any similar terms of abuse:
Doom, goth, death, dark.
This applies to the content of all advertising and promoter's announcements."
Presumably the following terms are fine to use:
Humdrum, dreary, past it, best years are behind them."
end quote.
I'm still going to see them.....
Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 14:27
by canon docre
Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 14:35
by Eva
Obviousman wrote:Well, Tilburg last year definately was a good first gig on the other hand...
It was stonking, but
not a first gig.... Leeds 05 was the first.
And that one was great, despite the sound problems....
re:
Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 14:36
by Ocean Moves
Smallstone wrote:Please do not shoot the messanger - I am merely cutting and pasting this from UK gossip email round robin called Holey Moley - bit like Popbitch..
Do go on, I'm sure we're all hanging on (insert
media-type-bloke-who-went-to-uni-with-a-bloke-who-liked-the-cure-but-doesnt-know-s**t-or-can-write-for-s**t-is-going-to-spend-2-minutes-filling-in-this-article-while-he-s-working-in-london)'s point of view.
Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 14:45
by DomConway
Obviousman wrote:Well, Tilburg last year definately
was a good first gig on the other hand...
Not a single interview for 52 gigs? Don't know what the not-so fanatic crowd will say of that
And not down either,
Jez
http://www.myheartland.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=9913
Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 14:58
by Obviousman
Eva wrote:Obviousman wrote:Well, Tilburg last year definately
was a good first gig on the other hand...
It was stonking, but
not a first gig.... Leeds 05 was the first.
And that one was great, despite the sound problems....
Well, technically that was but a warm-up, wasn't it
Thanks for the contract-quote,
Smallstone 
Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 15:10
by eastmidswhizzkid
Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 15:20
by eastmidswhizzkid
ok so y'all seem a bit disappointed by the
setlist -what did you expect (not
want) ? so there's no new songs/record... do you think that eldritch would be capable of putting-out to the tune of 52 dates if he had just spent forever in a studio? we know that's not the case anyway -taking into account downtime after the summer gigs, adam leaving, ben joining, planning a tour and christmas (yes some people celebrate christmas in the rock 'n' roll world too) what chance have they had? sorry, but the new album theory behind this tour was a no-brainer from the start.
i have also stopped thinking of this as a farewell tour -it's a thank-you tour even if it is the last. and look at it this way -if we hadn't had 52 big thank-you's from eldritch (where everyone in the civillised world at least gets a chance to see them
)
how much more disappointed would you all have been?
stop whinging....or indeed -shut the fu
ck up.
Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 15:24
by Brad
Amen.
And judging by history, their will be some surprises down the road (new song, cover tune, etc.) Always look on the bright side of life
Re: re:
Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 15:35
by Smallstone
[quote="Ocean Moves"][quote="Smallstone"]Please do not shoot the messanger - I am merely cutting and pasting this from UK gossip email round robin called Holey Moley - bit like Popbitch.. [/quote]
Do go on, I'm sure we're all hanging on (insert
media-type-bloke-who-went-to-uni-with-a-bloke-who-liked-the-cure-but-doesnt-know-s**t-or-can-write-for-s**t-is-going-to-spend-2-minutes-filling-in-this-article-while-he-s-working-in-london)'s point of view.[/quote]
Er.... excuse me? All I was doing was copying a admittedly not that humerous email - not my handiwork my good man - as I said 'don't shoot the messenger. You do understand what I mean by that don't you?
Or is your missive directed at the author of this humerous aside? Either way I think it should be taken with a pinch of salt and in the manner that it was intended. . i.e not very seriously.
Posted: 17 Feb 2006, 15:41
by christophe
doc P wrote:LV- setlist? more than disappointing imo
no cover , no surprise, no elvis tribute, no topniteout
I would not want to sound that drastic but it is a strage setlist.
it has a bit of a fairwell echo to it ...
OR:
They want to suprise all of us and hold the new songs for Paris