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Posted: 11 Nov 2011, 22:03
by playboy
yes, I mentioned that.
cheers
Posted: 11 Nov 2011, 22:46
by stufarq
Being645 wrote:playboy wrote:
for m*****n, it's of course always been fine: they wanted to be seen as nothing but a goth band ...
Just as a point of order, Wayne almost as much as Eldo has always protested at being labelled a goth, saying that he never subscribed to the goth lifestyle and always regarded The Mis
sion as a rock band. Whether or not you believe him, they never "wanted to be seen as nothing but a goth band".
Posted: 11 Nov 2011, 23:00
by Being645
stufarq wrote:Being645 wrote:playboy wrote:
for m*****n, it's of course always been fine: they wanted to be seen as nothing but a goth band ...
Just as a point of order, Wayne almost as much as Eldo has always protested at being labelled a goth, saying that he never subscribed to the goth lifestyle and always regarded The Mis
sion as a rock band. Whether or not you believe him, they never "wanted to be seen as nothing but a goth band".
That surprises me, TBH ...
... thanks for the information ...
Posted: 22 Nov 2011, 12:31
by TragicSerenades
Just a little thought of Wayne:
Top 3 songs on FALAA:
Amphetamine Logic
Some kind of stranger
Falaa
certainly not Wayne`s songs.....
Best piece of vinyl ever done by the sisters:
The reptile house e.p
certainly no Wayne there either....
Posted: 22 Nov 2011, 18:02
by playboy
stufarq wrote:Being645 wrote:playboy wrote:
for m*****n, it's of course always been fine: they wanted to be seen as nothing but a goth band ...
Just as a point of order, Wayne almost as much as Eldo has always protested at being labelled a goth, saying that he never subscribed to the goth lifestyle and always regarded The Mis
sion as a rock band. Whether or not you believe him, they never "wanted to be seen as nothing but a goth band".
I never wrote the above. It came from Sabine.
Posted: 22 Nov 2011, 18:54
by Being645
playboy wrote:stufarq wrote:Being645 wrote:
for m*****n, it's of course always been fine: they wanted to be seen as nothing but a goth band ...
Just as a point of order, Wayne almost as much as Eldo has always protested at being labelled a goth, saying that he never subscribed to the goth lifestyle and always regarded The Mis
sion as a rock band. Whether or not you believe him, they never "wanted to be seen as nothing but a goth band".
I never wrote the above. It came from Sabine.
Ah, you're back, playboy ...
... so, I've corrected the order for you. And, btw, my answer to stufarq had been:
Being645 wrote:That surprises me, TBH ... Wink ... thanks for the information ...
But I have now thought of that interview of Wayne's with
Vive Le Rock:
Wayne Hussy wrote:We never really considered ourselves Goth. But we never went out of our way to deny being part of it either. Goth has long been a dirty word ... I don't subscribe to that lifestyle. Personally I don't think of myself as Goth. I never really have. I guess the band have been perceived that way largely, but again I never really thought of us as being Goth. I don't know why we've been adopted particularly by that set of people, but I'm thankful for it because they've been very loyal ...
That interview ends with the remarkable note:
Perhaps Goth is no longer a dirty word ... well, I wonder ...
...
Posted: 22 Nov 2011, 23:59
by stufarq
playboy wrote:stufarq wrote:Being645 wrote:
Just as a point of order, Wayne almost as much as Eldo has always protested at being labelled a goth, saying that he never subscribed to the goth lifestyle and always regarded The Mission as a rock band. Whether or not you believe him, they never "wanted to be seen as nothing but a goth band".
I never wrote the above. It came from Sabine.
Sorry. as you can see, I didn't edit the quotes properly. It does have Sabine at the top but I screwed that up and missed editing you out altogether.
Posted: 23 Nov 2011, 11:05
by TragicSerenades
oh! almost forgot...the best song from the
Wayne era is "on the wire" written by Eldo himself.
No Wayne there either....
Posted: 23 Nov 2011, 11:11
by playboy
stufarq wrote:playboy wrote:stufarq wrote:
I never wrote the above. It came from Sabine.
Sorry. as you can see, I didn't edit the quotes properly. It does have Sabine at the top but I screwed that up and missed editing you out altogether.
No problems at all.
Have a nice day!
Posted: 23 Nov 2011, 11:50
by Ozpat
TragicSerenades wrote:oh! almost forgot...the best song from the
Wayne era is "on the wire" written by Eldo himself.
No Wayne there either....
Posted: 23 Nov 2011, 12:08
by playboy
TragicSerenades wrote:oh! almost forgot...the best song from the
Wayne era is "on the wire" written by Eldo himself.
No Wayne there either....
Such a shame of Eldo to play three songs live nowadays with Wayne involved as a writer. Would be much better if he skipped No Time To Cry, A Rock And A Hard Place and Marian....
Posted: 23 Nov 2011, 19:18
by Being645
playboy wrote:TragicSerenades wrote:oh! almost forgot...the best song from the
Wayne era is "on the wire" written by Eldo himself.
No Wayne there either....
Such a shame of Eldo to play three songs live nowadays with Wayne involved as a writer. Would be much better if he skipped No Time To Cry, A Rock And A Hard Place and Marian....
Oh, come on ... no need to exaggerate ...
...
Posted: 23 Nov 2011, 19:52
by Husek
playboy wrote:TragicSerenades wrote:oh! almost forgot...the best song from the
Wayne era is "on the wire" written by Eldo himself.
No Wayne there either....
Such a shame of Eldo to play three songs live nowadays with Wayne involved as a writer. Would be much better if he skipped No Time To Cry, A Rock And A Hard Place and Marian....
>implying Hussey made all the hard work, composed and write these songs, and von was just 'helping'.
Intellectual Love Gods like Von, just don't need a 'who help me with this tune' criteria to choose setlists.
Posted: 23 Nov 2011, 22:35
by playboy
Being645 wrote:playboy wrote:TragicSerenades wrote:oh! almost forgot...the best song from the
Wayne era is "on the wire" written by Eldo himself.
No Wayne there either....
Such a shame of Eldo to play three songs live nowadays with Wayne involved as a writer. Would be much better if he skipped No Time To Cry, A Rock And A Hard Place and Marian....
Oh, come on ... no need to exaggerate ...
...
I know. Couldn´t help it. Thought it was really low though to constantly write about which songs Wayne didn´t wrote. I meen, we all love Sisters, those comments are really, really silly and belong in kindergarten.
Everybody seems to love Benn Gunn though he didn´t wrote a single song.
I was under the impression that this was a serious forum.
Posted: 23 Nov 2011, 22:36
by playboy
Husek wrote:playboy wrote:TragicSerenades wrote:oh! almost forgot...the best song from the
Wayne era is "on the wire" written by Eldo himself.
No Wayne there either....
Such a shame of Eldo to play three songs live nowadays with Wayne involved as a writer. Would be much better if he skipped No Time To Cry, A Rock And A Hard Place and Marian....
>implying Hussey made all the hard work, composed and write these songs, and von was just 'helping'.
Intellectual Love Gods like Von, just don't need a 'who help me with this tune' criteria to choose setlists.
No. Just another way of saying: who cares who wrote what songs? leave it.
Posted: 23 Nov 2011, 23:04
by Being645
Posted: 23 Nov 2011, 23:08
by markfiend
you just blew my mind
Posted: 23 Nov 2011, 23:14
by Being645
Posted: 24 Nov 2011, 00:51
by Nikolas Vitus Lagartija
playboy wrote:
it was really low though to constantly write about which songs Wayne didn´t wrote. I meen, we all love Sisters.
I'm with you on this one,
Playboy. As you will know from my previous posts, I'm no fan of Mr Hussey but
NTTC and
Marian are great choons and match
's lyrics perfectly. AE has always been aware of his own limitations as a tunesmith, and most of the Girls' finest moments have been penned in collaboration with another band member. Although
On The Wire has always been a personal favourite of mine, from a songwriting point of view it always had a slightly unfinished feel, and ended up as a B side loved only by the hardcore fans.
Posted: 24 Nov 2011, 01:47
by Being645
playboy wrote:Being645 wrote:playboy wrote:
Such a shame of Eldo to play three songs live nowadays with Wayne involved as a writer. Would be much better if he skipped No Time To Cry, A Rock And A Hard Place and Marian....
Oh, come on ... no need to exaggerate ...
...
I know. Couldn´t help it. Thought it was really low though to constantly write about which songs Wayne didn´t wrote. I meen, we all love Sisters, those comments are really, really silly and belong in kindergarten.
Everybody seems to love Benn Gunn though he didn´t wrote a single song.
I was under the impression that this was a serious forum.
OK, sorry, I had missed this post ...
... after all this long discussion about what Von were
without Wayne and more such stuff, I got into some - also slightly exaggerated - counterstrike mode myself ...
...
Posted: 24 Nov 2011, 10:55
by playboy
Nikolas Vitus Lagartija wrote:playboy wrote:
it was really low though to constantly write about which songs Wayne didn´t wrote. I meen, we all love Sisters.
I'm with you on this one,
Playboy. As you will know from my previous posts, I'm no fan of Mr Hussey but
NTTC and
Marian are great choons and match
's lyrics perfectly. AE has always been aware of his own limitations as a tunesmith, and most of the Girls' finest moments have been penned in collaboration with another band member. Although
On The Wire has always been a personal favourite of mine, from a songwriting point of view it always had a slightly unfinished feel, and ended up as a B side loved only by the hardcore fans.
I also think that On The Wire is one of the finest songs. I think all this is a questin of when (and how) you discovered the band. It seems like most of those who is talking down only got to knew about Sisters after the split, during or after the Vision Thing era.
I discovered them when Wayne was in the band, remember when the album was released and loved it (still do). Saw them live and they blew my mind. So, I find it really hard to understand all this negative band written about him here. By Sisters fans! In some way, it does not make sense. First And Last And Always was the bands leap into something bigger than anybody could have imagined. A band, still touring 21 years after their latest release.
What Wayne did after Sisters is another thing. Another band. Got nothing to do with Sisters. Belongs in a different forum.
Posted: 24 Nov 2011, 12:26
by Aazhyd
playboy wrote:leap into something bigger than anybody could have imagined. A band, still touring 21 years after their latest release.
Yeh, that's a great achievement, I agree.
Posted: 24 Nov 2011, 13:02
by Being645
Aazhyd wrote:playboy wrote:leap into something bigger than anybody could have imagined. A band, still touring 21 years after their latest release.
Yeh, that's a great achievement, I agree.
...
... and imagine what could have been, if there had not been such a lot of mess in their way ...
For some of these things it's too late, and surely quite to the contentment of a few people...
But hell, The Sisters of Mercy are still there and therefore, nothing is lost ...
...
Posted: 24 Nov 2011, 14:23
by playboy
Being645 wrote:Aazhyd wrote:playboy wrote:leap into something bigger than anybody could have imagined. A band, still touring 21 years after their latest release.
Yeh, that's a great achievement, I agree.
...
... and imagine what could have been, if there had not been such a lot of mess in their way ...
For some of these things it's too late, and surely quite to the contentment of a few people...
But hell, The Sisters of Mercy are still there and therefore, nothing is lost ...
...
Yes, imagine what it be like if they had not stopped releasing records.. Maybe we would have like 12 albums....mmmmm..... such a shame, that would be so nice.
Have a nice day
Posted: 24 Nov 2011, 14:29
by Being645
playboy wrote:Being645 wrote:Aazhyd wrote:
Yeh, that's a great achievement, I agree.
...
... and imagine what could have been, if there had not been such a lot of mess in their way ...
For some of these things it's too late, and surely quite to the contentment of a few people...
But hell, The Sisters of Mercy are still there and therefore, nothing is lost ...
...
Yes, imagine what it be like if they had not stopped releasing records.. Maybe we would have like 12 albums....mmmmm..... such a shame, that would be so nice.
Have a nice day
Yes, an incredible shame. But there is no point in mourning over spilt milk (or whatever happened) ...
Thanks for you good wishes, though ...
... it is a lovely and sunny day over here, not even all that cold ...
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