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Posted: 22 Dec 2008, 21:13
by radiojamaica
Ozpat wrote:radiojamaica wrote:You got one Pat?
I bought one yes (310 GBP)
Hope it will arrive safely.
Nice!
Congrats young man, I know you'll give it a good home.
If you want to get rid of the fake one for the funds, let me know... I could be interested
Posted: 22 Dec 2008, 21:17
by cardoman
Ozpat wrote:radiojamaica wrote:You got one Pat?
I bought one yes (310 GBP)
Hope it will arrive safely.
Send it secure... and xmas greetings to you and your love ones too...
Posted: 22 Dec 2008, 21:17
by Ozpat
radiojamaica wrote:Ozpat wrote:radiojamaica wrote:You got one Pat?
I bought one yes (310 GBP)
Hope it will arrive safely.
Nice!
Congrats young man, I know you'll give it a good home.
If you want to get rid of the fake one for the funds, let me know... I could be interested
Thanks mate!
Your own words: real collectors collect it all!
Posted: 22 Dec 2008, 21:24
by radiojamaica
Yeah, I figured
Posted: 23 Dec 2008, 08:30
by paul
Congrats, Patrick, you're in the Major League now
Posted: 23 Dec 2008, 09:34
by psichonaut
paul wrote:Congrats, Patrick, you're in the Major League now
wich championship i have to submit?
Posted: 23 Dec 2008, 13:48
by paul
psichonaut wrote:paul wrote:Congrats, Patrick, you're in the Major League now
wich championship i have to submit?
The Championship Collecting Dodgy Goff Memoriabila
I'm in it as well ...
Posted: 23 Dec 2008, 14:38
by Ozpat
paul wrote:psichonaut wrote:paul wrote:Congrats, Patrick, you're in the Major League now
wich championship i have to submit?
The Championship Collecting Dodgy Goff Memoriabila
I'm in it as well ...
Oh yes!
Posted: 23 Dec 2008, 20:43
by Josch
There is a Championship? Wow...
Posted: 23 Dec 2008, 22:01
by cardoman
Josch wrote:There is a Championship? Wow...
Let's start noticing than...
What do we have?
A. The genuine one labes correct side
B. The genuine one labes wrong side
C. The fake one
Who's got A, who's got B, who's got A+B, who's got A+B+C (the triple)?
Posted: 24 Dec 2008, 11:21
by Ozpat
C and (almost) A or B. Good enough for the time being!
Posted: 24 Dec 2008, 14:43
by paul
cardoman wrote:Josch wrote:There is a Championship? Wow...
Let's start noticing than...
What do we have?
A. The genuine one labes correct side
B. The genuine one labes wrong side
C. The fake one
Who's got A, who's got B, who's got A+B, who's got A+B+C (the triple)?
Nope:
A. Testpressing
Posted: 24 Dec 2008, 15:39
by cardoman
paul wrote:cardoman wrote:Josch wrote:There is a Championship? Wow...
Let's start noticing than...
What do we have?
A. The genuine one labes correct side
B. The genuine one labes wrong side
C. The fake one
Who's got A, who's got B, who's got A+B, who's got A+B+C (the triple)?
Nope:
A. Testpressing
OK than:
A. Testpressing
B. The genuine one labes correct side
C. The genuine one labes wrong side
D. The fake one
for me: B+C+D the quest for the holy grail A still going on but I will never find it.
for Ozpat:
Almost B/C and sure D
for Paul
B/C and D ?
next?
Posted: 24 Dec 2008, 17:48
by taylor
A.00 : 7 INCH ACETATE PORTLAND STUDIOS
Posted: 24 Dec 2008, 19:41
by robertzombie
Could you post a photo of that?
Posted: 25 Dec 2008, 14:27
by cardoman
taylor wrote:A.00 : 7 INCH ACETATE PORTLAND STUDIOS
You have Taylor?
Posted: 25 Dec 2008, 18:43
by Victim of Circumstance
Congrats Taylor
Btw, how many copies of the Damage Done testpressing exist?
I have B/C/D
Posted: 27 Dec 2008, 19:05
by Ozpat
So B and D it is.
Posted: 27 Dec 2008, 20:13
by paul
robertzombie wrote:Could you post a photo of that?
I have a photo somewhere, coming with the article "F is for fake", dedicated to the much sought after and pricy Damage Done. The article (with much input from Uncle Sister, including the pic of the acetate) was published in a book for vinyl collectors/price guide. Here's the text, ripped from another thread:
F IS FOR FAKE
“The Damage Done� and a cross on the church: Joelle Folliot and John Reed warn of the perils of investing in this goth monster.
The Sisters Of Mercy: “The Damage Done� (Merciful Release MR 7, 11/80)
Doom-laden lyrics, bellowing vocals and effects-drenched guitars to an audience of crimped hair, black jeans and purple crushed velvet – the goth cult was nothing if not extreme. The demi-gods of goth rock were the Sisters Of Mercy, a swirling mass of sinister beings scarcely visible beneath outlandish, spiky haircuts and tons of dry ice. They sang of reptile houses, temples of love and anacondas. And in Andrew Eldritch, they possessed goth’s guiding light, a diminutive figure worshipped by thousands of pale-faced youths for the best parts of the 1980s.
Now the Sisters Are Back. Twenty-somethings dusted off their pointed black boots and dug out the white face powder to attend a goth get-together at Birmingham NEC – only the event was cancelled after a dispute with the promoters. Bad karma, man, but diehards can catch the band across Europe this summer.
Those disappointed fans who’d like to redivert their funds into the Sisters’ elusive debut should beware. To find a kosha copy requires a roving, eyelined opticular organ as sharp as Pete Murphy’s cheekbones – and even then, you’ll probably be the worse off for 150 smackers. The cheeky counterfeits, in contrast, shouldn’t cost much more than a bottle of nail varnish…
“The five original Sisters Of Mercy arose in the autumn of ’79, breaking up over the following Easter… The surviving nucleus, Sister A and Gary Marx, produced this single as an obscure epitaph.� That was how the Leeds-based band explained their first single on an accompanying insert (but more of that later).
“The Damage Done� was recorded in September 1980 at Portland Studios in London; an invoice for two stereo masters and just one acetate is dated September 19th. The single was then issued in November on the Merciful Release label. The catalogue number – MR 7 – was always something of a mystery. Why not MR 1, for example? Well, a Leeds punk band the Impossibles had already issued a single, “Books Books Books�, as Merciful Release MR 1 early in 1980. A coincidence, perhaps? – it’s unclear whether the two bands were in any way connected.
The 1,000-only 7� contained three songs: “The Damage Done� was written by Eldritch (or Andrew Taylor, as his mother knew him); and Mark Pairman (alias Gary Marx) donated “Watch� and the 18-second finale, “Home Of The Hitmen�. Some copies printed the labels on the wrong side – and no, it doesn’t affect the value. According to RC writer Paul Denman, “they created a wall of sound comprising thrash-distortion guitars, morose vocals and he (in)famous disco backbeat of the drum machine ‘Doktor Avalanche’.� Wow!
Eldritch has since dismissed the single as forgettable and his embarassment isn’t totally unfounded – but then it was their first single. In its favour, the song’s gloomy, atmospheric, post-punk feel laid the foundations for the Sisters’ brand of gothic psychodrama.
The visual aspects of the single were definitely more striking. The memorable ‘head and star’ logo seen on borth one of the labels and the back cover borrowed a head schematic from a medical book used to describe anatomical dissection. The front cover photo was just as cheer: a Victorian graveyard scene supposedly taken from a short film depicting a funeral procession.
The few remaining copies of “The Damage Done� were then circulated – probably in 1982 after the success of “Alice� – via the York-based Red Rhino distribution. These came with an insert explaining the re-release, although the real reason may have been to shift the old stock. To this day, some collectors question the authenticity of this later edition – or rather, the extra sheet. By that time, the Sisters were climbing their cobwebbed ladder to rock superstardom, Top 40 hits and sold-out stadiums, in the process creating a legend of the post-punk era.
With thanks to Robin Colman, John Esplen and Mark Woodley.
The original
Check the messages in the run-off groooves:
A-side – “A Porky Prime Cut MR7-PICTURE-1 For Spiggy�.
B-side – “A Nudder Porky Prime Cut For Trixie MR-7-Words-�.
The cross on top of the church should be visible at the very top of the photo on the front cover. The curved thumb cut on the back is neraly 4� long.
Some labels are on the correct sides. And some aren’t.
The counterfeit
At first glance, this roguish replica could be palmed off as the real thing. But…
The run-off groove text is different:
A-side – PAE-03B 2
B-side – PAE-03A (9B erased)
Although the cover is a worthy (if slightly darker) reproduction, the top of the churchyard photo is cut off, omitting the cross on top of the church. It has a smaller 2¼� curved thumb cut on the back.
The labels are identical to originals, except that all the labels are on the wrong side.
Posted: 27 Dec 2008, 21:19
by cardoman
Nice post, Paul! Which insert do they mean? Someone of us got one?
A. Taylor? (1?)
B. Ozpat / Paul / Victim of Circ / Cardoman (4)
C. ......... / ....... / Victim of Circ / Cardoman (2)
D. Ozpat / Paul / Victim of Circ / Cardoman (4)
In a few years we are able to say how many of those 1000 still excist... For the moment we have got 6 genuines and 4 fakes owned by Heartlanders.
Posted: 28 Dec 2008, 15:25
by robertzombie
paul wrote:
“The five original Sisters Of Mercy arose in the autumn of ’79, breaking up over the following Easter… The surviving nucleus, Sister A and Gary Marx, produced this single as an obscure epitaph.�
I've never heard that before, always thought Eldritch and Marx were the beginning of The Sisters but this seems to suggest otherwise. Could anyone elaborate on this info?
Posted: 28 Dec 2008, 19:10
by cardoman
After the badge we have the ?
The badge to use on the ?
X
Posted: 28 Dec 2008, 19:14
by CellThree
I have a C
Posted: 28 Dec 2008, 23:28
by spiggymr7
hello everybody
Including acetate and test pressing photos.
Taylor got:
A.
B.Test pressing
C.The genuine one labes correct side
D.The genuine one labes wrong side
E.The fake one
Spiggymr7 got:
A.Acetate
B.
C.The genuine one labes correct side
D.The genuine one labes wrong side
E.The fake one
The article noticed aboved comes from Record collector may 1997 n° 213
If somebody could convince Taylor to sell me his test-pressing, i would be eternaly gratefull
all the best
Spiggymr7 Aka Joëlle Folliot
Acetate:
Test pressing
Test pressing with invoice
Damage done single red rhino insert
Damage done acetate invoice
Posted: 29 Dec 2008, 00:53
by taylor