Heartland

I got mine from a shop in Cologne, where I ordered them 2 weeks ago, first they didnt believe me but three days later they called me, that I was right. Last Friday I really got them (just 2, Vision Thing should come this week). They were 12 Euro each, it isnt a bargain but bought them in a real shop, no internet site.....

Thanks for clearing that up for me

I also wonder what Mr Marx thinks of the reissue, especially when it comes to SKOS, after all, it isn't a finished product and some artists don't want their unfinished work being made available, which is understandable from the artists' point.

Yes the "early" version of SKOS is quite nice and diffrent but it isnt that well produced (Never Land (full) - is the same), and Von "might" be angry about that release.

Gary has mentioned that version of SKOS in interviews before, particularly his surprise that it hadn't already slipped out on a boot. I don't really think he'd be too concerned one way or another - he seems a very reasonable and well balanced chappie based on his interviews.

Von, I suspect, would be spitting blood over Never Land.

mh wrote:Von, I suspect, would be spitting blood over Never Land.

and I could give a (full length) shit

It's mine now

mh wrote:Gary has mentioned that version of SKOS in interviews before, particularly his surprise that it hadn't already slipped out on a boot.

Marx also mentioned "Child Of Light," his "9W9" demo, and also was surprised it hadn't been leaked to the bootleggers. I wonder how many other demos there are from the FALAA sessions? I think it would be a hot seller for Warners to release a CD of all the demos from the session, as most of us who have a few of them - "Red Skies," "Garden of Delight," etc., have s**t versions. Copies of the quality of the SKOS(e) would be most welcome. And the version of "Wide Receiver" we've all got was recorded by Andy alone... the scan of the prep sheet from Strawberry Studios makes me wonder if the band ever did a version of the track? In any case, I'm sure there are gems yet to be unearthed. Here's hoping.

Also the BBC sessions... PeelX2 and Janice Long. CD versions of those would be most welcome.

Oh yeah, The Sisters Meet Auntie is not only a must but long over due.

James Blast wrote:Oh yeah, The Sisters Meet Auntie is not only a must but long over due.

So long as it's done properly and not just the Peels.

James Blast wrote:Oh yeah, The Sisters Meet Auntie is not only a must but long over due.

That would be a BBC release, not Warners, for the Peel Sessons and so on. I'm surprised Auntie never put anything out before. They've put stuff out by Fields Of The Nephilim, All About Eve, m*****n - loads of bands. With the renewed interest (from a record company point), now would be a good time for Good Things (groan!)

If BBC did it, it would only be the Peels.

Something like Bauhaus' Swing The Heartache comp would be much better.

what's "Auntie," for us non Englanders?

BBC, IIRC

bismarck wrote:what's "Auntie," for us non Englanders?

Auntie Beeb is an affection for the BBC, sorry Biz

I know this might sound cynical, and I'd love it if there was a new
record (of course).... but concluding that these 3 warner releases
indicate a new band record makes no sense to me.

If this were the case, they would wait until a new record is
promoted and sold, and *then* release the back catalogue,
on the back of the associated interest.

I'm afraid I think that it is merely the warner roster deciding
that its 25 years, and band have toured, lets put out the
re-issues and forget about it.

jenzi-benzi wrote: Last Friday I really got them (just 2, Vision Thing should come this week)

Same for me Jens. I think the reason might be the printing error (Visioin Thing)???

Ocean Moves: Nothing indicates a new release. It's just wishful thinking..
I guess the old tapes must be digitalised sooner or later and that's the reason they release these. Tapes starts to rotten after 20 years.

Dinky says about her Vision Thing re-release:

probably the best point: low price! 9 euros.
Nice booklet / package.
Cool pics.

It's my third VT copy, i guess.

And i don't hear a slight case of difference in the so called remastering.

And calling a rough mix of 'when you don't see me' a remix, is opportunism.

NEXT.

ps. I DO like the "Bon Jovi" written in the sleeve and the misspell of "written by Eldridge." I think this is footage from that era, a production roster or so. Sorry if discussed here before...

These reissues may be an exercise in copyright renewal. I'm not sure how long the copyright runs for in the case of CDs (and DVDs), it may be 25 years but am not certain. If the copyright thing runs for 25 years, that would say that they copyright Warners have for FALAA would expire in 2010.

The timing may just be to take advantage of the Silver Bullet tour.

RetroGoth wrote:These reissues may be an exercise in copyright renewal. I'm not sure how long the copyright runs for in the case of CDs (and DVDs), it may be 25 years but am not certain. If the copyright thing runs for 25 years, that would say that they copyright Warners have for FALAA would expire in 2010.

That's a good point. I remember Bowie got the copyrights to his early stuff back sometime in the 90s, so maybe it's 20 years, or even just 15, or might even be stated in the original contract.

I think I saw on the Yes reissues (well, the two I have) that it says Copyright renewed 2005. Drama was released 1980 and 90125 was from 1983. These were also on Rhino and contained the usual errors one would expect from stuff done on the cheap.

what i think is offensive in the re-issue, is still publishing the Merciful Release logo on the sleeve. I mean, isn't that untrue?

dinky daisy wrote:what i think is offensive in the re-issue, is still publishing the Merciful Release logo on the sleeve. I mean, isn't that untrue?

I think you're absolutely right. MR might have a case for copyright infringement for unauthorised use of Trade Marks but I am not a solicitor (but have worked in a law firm although dealing in other specialised areas). It may also depend on the original contract terms and the severence terms when the 'moribund relationship with eastwest' was terminated. One of von's issues was that he has no deal with eastwest. I also beleive that he would have not have signed a deal with Rhino. If he had, then there would have been lots of comments on the office site, press interviews and so on and so forth. Without any official comment and until there is any such comment from the man himself, I think we'll only ever have conjecture, which can be a bit fustrating to say the least.

What I do find more than a little bit strange is the complete lack of comment from von and co one way or the other regarding these reissues.

it is ty-pi-cal.

and you'd all have grumbled if the beloved head/star logo hadn't been on them

James Blast wrote:and you'd all have grumbled if the beloved head/star logo hadn't been on them

So very true.