Is Islam a peaceful religion?

[DarkAngel]

(For example, in the USA, pharmacists are allowed to refuse to dispense birth control prescriptions if they have "religious grounds" for such refusal.) - Mark

Say what?!!

I don't think so Mark.

[smiscandlon]

(For example, in the USA, pharmacists are allowed to refuse to dispense birth control prescriptions if they have "religious grounds" for such refusal.) - Mark

Say what?!!

I don't think so Mark.

This took me 2 seconds to find on Google:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/200 ... pill_x.htm

[DarkAngel]

Consider: There are about 400 recognized terrorist groups in the world. Over 90 percent of these are Islamist groups. Over 90 percent of the current world fighting involves Islamist terror movements. The vast majority of world terrorism is religiously motivated by Islam.

[smiscandlon]

Consider: There are about 400 recognized terrorist groups in the world. Over 90 percent of these are Islamist groups. Over 90 percent of the current world fighting involves Islamist terror movements. The vast majority of world terrorism is religiously motivated by Islam.

Someone give that record player a kick, I think the needle's stuck.

[EvilBastard]

Consider: There are about 400 recognized terrorist groups in the world. Over 90 percent of these are Islamist groups. Over 90 percent of the current world fighting involves Islamist terror movements. The vast majority of world terrorism is religiously motivated by Islam.

"400 recognized terrorist groups" - recognised by whom? By the US? A country that has for years had a policy of supporting terrorist groups (sorry, I mean "freedom fighters")...the Provisional IRA, for example, or the Contras in Nicaragua who deemed it appropriate to bomb schools and health clinics that were run by that country's legitimate government.
I'd love to know where you get your stats - were they perhaps compiled by the International Academy of the Anally-Sourced Airborne Simians?

[mh]

Consider: There are about 400 recognized terrorist groups in the world. Over 90 percent of these are Islamist groups. Over 90 percent of the current world fighting involves Islamist terror movements. The vast majority of world terrorism is religiously motivated by Islam.

Sorry, but that's a load of boll-ocks, and quite likely overly influenced by current US political trends and thinking. Even if the statistics were valid (which I doubt) it doesn't even take the size of the various groups into account. How can 2 lads in the back of a van and a continent-spanning organisation make the same 0.25% contribution?

Over 90 percent of the current world fighting involves Islamist terror movements.

Rubbish. Does it take various civil wars in African states into account, for example? I don't think so. Is it a perfect example of how (initially dubious) statistics can be manipulated to prove an invalid point? Yes.

The vast majority of world terrorism is religiously motivated by Islam.

Hold on - I live in Ireland. We've just had over 30 years of terrorism which was NOT motivated by Islam in any way, shape, mean or form. So please don't give me BS sweeping statements like this, I've lived it and grown up in it, and I know that no matter what the initial cause it eventually just boils down to primitive human bloodthirstiness and greed. You know, I know, and we all know, that one of the prime motivations in the current situation is control over oil producing resources. I could just as easily say that the vast majority of world terrorism is motivated by the automobile industry.

In fact, I will.

The vast majority of world terrorism is motivated by the automobile industry.

[DarkAngel]

(For example, in the USA, pharmacists are allowed to refuse to dispense birth control prescriptions if they have "religious grounds" for such refusal.) - Mark

Say what?!!

I don't think so Mark. :eek:

This took me 2 seconds to find on Google:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/200 ... pill_x.htm

That's backward Mississippi - not the whole country!

[canon docre]

(For example, in the USA, pharmacists are allowed to refuse to dispense birth control prescriptions if they have "religious grounds" for such refusal.) - Mark

Say what?!!

I don't think so Mark.

This took me 2 seconds to find on Google:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/200 ... pill_x.htm

That's backward Mississippi - not the whole country!

Why is it so hard for you to apply the same differentiation on other countries like you just did for your own country.

[EvilBastard]

That's backward Mississippi - not the whole country!

First paragraph: "For a year, Julee Lacey stopped in a CVS pharmacy near her home in a Fort Worth suburb to get refills of her birth-control pills. Then one day last March, the pharmacist refused to fill Lacey's prescription because she did not believe in birth control."
Fort Worth is in Mississippi now? Wow, it really is true what they say - the US needs wars in order to teach the kids about geography.

"Some pharmacists, however, disagree and refuse on moral grounds to fill prescriptions for contraceptives. And states from Rhode Island to Washington have proposed laws that would protect such decisions."
Doesn't sound like Ol' Miss' either.

"In Wisconsin, a petition drive is underway to revive a proposed law that would protect pharmacists who refuse to prescribe drugs they believe could cause an abortion or be used for assisted suicide."
Now, my geography isn't fantastic, but I'm fairly sure that Wisconsin and Mississippi aren't the same state.

Thank you for playing "I'm full of s**t!", but I'm afraid you really are the weakest (and possibly the missing) link.

[smiscandlon]

In related news, Salman Rushdie says Muslim veils suck!

[9while9]

That's backward Mississippi - not the whole country!

Thank you for playing "I'm full of s**t!", but I'm afraid you really are the weakest (and possibly the missing) link.

Now what the hell have you proved by jumping on one mistake?

Other then maybe your a vindictive asshole, nothing really.

This smacks of an earlier post where someone points out how
"if you don't like what someone has said certain people on here
act out like the mental midgets they really are."

I can go back and look at posts that most of us have made and find mistakes, etc.. If I point them out to you will that make me superior?

Try to act like the intelligent individuals that most of you are and less like band wagon droons.

[HisWimmNess]

That's backward Mississippi - not the whole country!

Thank you for playing "I'm full of s**t!", but I'm afraid you really are the weakest (and possibly the missing) link.

Now what the hell have you proved by jumping on one mistake?

Other then maybe your a vindictive asshole, nothing really.

This smacks of an earlier post where someone points out how
"if you don't like what someone has said certain people on here
act out like the mental midgets they really are."

I can go back and look at posts that most of us have made and find mistakes, etc.. If I point them out to you will that make me superior?

Try to act like the intelligent individuals that most of you are and less like band wagon droons.

Some words of advice of a Belgian boy who is normally very peacefull: go f*ck yourself and take your quotes and statistics with you.

end of transmission.

EDIT: I forgot the smiley

[9while9]

Thank you for playing "I'm full of s**t!", but I'm afraid you really are the weakest (and possibly the missing) link.

Now what the hell have you proved by jumping on one mistake?

Other then maybe your a vindictive asshole, nothing really.

This smacks of an earlier post where someone points out how
"if you don't like what someone has said certain people on here
act out like the mental midgets they really are."

I can go back and look at posts that most of us have made and find mistakes, etc.. If I point them out to you will that make me superior?

Try to act like the intelligent individuals that most of you are and less like band wagon droons.

Some words of advice of a Belgian boy who is normally very peacefull: go f*ck yourself and take your quotes and statistics with you.

end of transmission.

You have responded like a true
Mental Midget > HisWimmNess

Also see: > Typically brave, when sitting behind a keyboard.

[DarkAngel]

This took me 2 seconds to find on Google:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/200 ... pill_x.htm

That's backward Mississippi - not the whole country!

Why is it so hard for you to apply the same differentiation on other countries like you just did for your own country. :?:

I'm not sure what you mean by that. In my country there is a difference between state law and federal law. If someone says the U.S. has made it legal for pharmacists to refuse birth control and I point out that it is not the U.S. but a state - I am simply correcting that misconception that it is a federal law.

[aims]

Did I miss the part where Mississippi was annexed? There's nothing incorrect about the statement that it's legal in the US. Nobody said anything about the whole of the US.

[paint it black]

http://www.ethicalatheist.com/docs/islam_infidels.html

this is so much bollocks it's unreal. don't you read the news

[DarkAngel]

(For example, in the USA, pharmacists are allowed to refuse to dispense birth control prescriptions if they have "religious grounds" for such refusal.) - Mark


I suppose one could say that "in the U.S.A." could mean anywhere within the U.S.A. but as U.S. citizen I always make a point of differentiating between state law and federal law. This refusal to give out birth control is unconstitutional and will most likely go through the process and change. It will be interesting to watch the pendulum swing before it comes to rest.

[Syberberg]

Fascinating. I wonder if there were similar discussions around the bars and restaurants in 1930's Germany.

[aims]

This refusal to give out birth control is unconstitutional and will most likely go through the process and change.

Like the recent rendition law, you mean?

And the Geneva convention holds a tad more sway than a single country's constitution

[paint it black]

Other then maybe your a vindictive asshole

@ 9W9 : you're a vindictive asshole

vindictive being, in this case, an optional extra

[9while9]

Other then maybe your a vindictive asshole

@ 9W9 : you're a vindictive asshole

vindictive being, in this case, an optional extra

Ah, another pithy retort from the M&M Club....

[RicheyJames]

i've clearly been gone for far too long. where the hell did these eejits come from?

[Brideoffrankenstein]

(For example, in the USA, pharmacists are allowed to refuse to dispense birth control prescriptions if they have "religious grounds" for such refusal.) - Mark

Say what?!!

I don't think so Mark.

They can do that here too, though they are obliged to direct you to another chemist where you would be able to obtain the birth control.

[smiscandlon]

i've clearly been gone for far too long. where the hell did these eejits come from?

USA

I wasn't actually joking when I said this.

[sultan2075]

I ignore this thread for one day (and it was shaping up to be an interesting one), and what happens? It degenerates into a bunch of monkeys tossing their dump at each other. Nice work, folks. nice work indeed.

This is why you can't have nice things.