Never Land (A Fragment?) [Reissue] - Comments, etc

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finally got to hear the gem. f**king amazing :notworthy:
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Ozpat wrote:Never Land (full lenght) :notworthy: :notworthy:

Put it on your setlist Von! :D
With an entire set being around 75/80 minutes, it'll never happen. Which is a shame as the short version doesn't do the song justice.
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Sounds like this one is worth buying for Never Land alone.

Ironic to think AE was once in negotiations to remove Torch and Colours
from the CD as they were only intended as a limited promo and not as
part of the album.
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von likes records and loathes CDs it would appear, which may be why he wanted the CD to reflect what was on the record? Understandable but hardly fair to those who would pay more for the CD than the record, in those days anyway.
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Erudite wrote: Ironic to think AE was once in negotiations to remove Torch and Colours
from the CD as they were only intended as a limited promo and not as
part of the album.
I personally think the album is better off without those two, it's more consistent. They're okay but I prefer to think of them as bonus tracks only.
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Badlander wrote: They're okay but I prefer to think of them as bonus tracks only.
and that's what they are....
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But switch the running order so it goes:

Dominion
Mother Russia
Flood I
Lucretia
1959
Torch
Colours
This Corrosion
Flood II
Driven Like The Snow
Never Land (whichever you prefer)

...and it all makes sense!
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i suppose it's fair to say that my reaction to Never Land (full length) was even stronger than my reaction to SKOS (early).

The song to listen to if i were to slice my wrists. i got extremely romantic, almost irresistable, visions about that while i was listening to it.

i suppose i won't dare to listen to it at all as long as i wanna stay alive.
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Having lived with it for nigh on two weeks now, I withdraw my initial comments. I knew I was daft to post such a knee-jerk reaction, but it is my favourite Sisters song and I waited so long for that moment.

The full length version is a masterpiece, lyrically and aurally, their finest IMO.

and now for another rash comment I'll nae doubt regret...

They shall never better it.

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James Blast wrote: The full length version is a masterpiece, lyrically and aurally, their finest IMO.

I must agree with you there. It's excellent. The lyrics are so evocative, really very beautiful.
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RetroGoth wrote:
Ozpat wrote:Never Land (full lenght) :notworthy: :notworthy:

Put it on your setlist Von! :D
With an entire set being around 75/80 minutes, it'll never happen.
I wouldn't bet on it. I'm sure Von would quite happily fill the entire set with an 80-minute version of Never Land if the mood took him. :lol:
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James Blast wrote:Having lived with it for nigh on two weeks now, I withdraw my initial comments. I knew I was daft to post such a knee-jerk reaction, but it is my favourite Sisters song and I waited so long for that moment.

The full length version is a masterpiece, lyrically and aurally, their finest IMO.

and now for another rash comment I'll nae doubt regret...

They shall never better it.

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Glad it grew on you James. :D And isn't Eldritch's vocal on this song completely and utterly stunning!!!
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Andrew S wrote:
RetroGoth wrote:
Ozpat wrote:Never Land (full lenght) :notworthy: :notworthy:

Put it on your setlist Von! :D
With an entire set being around 75/80 minutes, it'll never happen.
I wouldn't bet on it. I'm sure Von would quite happily fill the entire set with an 80-minute version of Never Land if the mood took him. :lol:
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Even I would fly to Moscow for Never Land (the mini opera). :lol: :lol: :lol:
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With the comments above, I decided to play it again, and I got very romantic too (although the thoughts I got didn't include cutting my wrists, oh no no no :oops: ), I was alone in this room and it sounded so good I had to turn up the volume and close the door... Then the door opens, my workmate enters and says: Hi, what gloomy dirge are you listening to, turn it off or you'll scare the customers away!
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I cannot, I just can not understand the mind of such a person. Not that I care, of course. I'll play it loud again in the car on my way home.
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James Blast wrote: Even I would fly to Moscow for Never Land (the mini opera). :lol: :lol: :lol:
How about Never land (a 6-hour Wagnerian epic) ? ;D
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I wonder how long Neverland would have been if Jim Steinman produced it - or the whole album for that matter? Like others, I like to listen to it on repeat as well.
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Never Land f**king rules......it FINALLY makes sense now...... now where are my drugs????*grins* Amphs are BAD...amphs are BAD.....but then..I guess a LITTLE snort won't hurt....;-)
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I'm not sure if this is covered elsewhere, if so apologies. But the non bonus tracks on the reissue of Floodland do not sound as good to me as they are on the original CD. They sound compressed and lack some of the depth and majesty..
Whereas th FALAA re-issueis a superior mix to the 1992 CD and the Vision Thing reissue sounds more rounded. The Floodland reissue sounds inferior - is it just me or have others noticed?
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million voices wrote:I'm not sure if this is covered elsewhere, if so apologies. But the non bonus tracks on the reissue of Floodland do not sound as good to me as they are on the original CD. They sound compressed and lack some of the depth and majesty..
Whereas th FALAA re-issueis a superior mix to the 1992 CD and the Vision Thing reissue sounds more rounded. The Floodland reissue sounds inferior - is it just me or have others noticed?
Vision Thing does sound a lot better, I agree with you there. Then again, it depends on what they were played back on.
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Heard the full version of Neverland last night(Thanks Mr Blast).It knocked me bandy but even to my untrained ear 'oles the drums sound a bit weak compared with the version on floodland.
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handle it Bill it really is a grower

the extra words are worth the price of admission alone
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[quote="James Blast"]handle it [b]Bill[/b] it really is a grower

[size=9]the extra words are worth the price of admission alone[/size][/quote]
Seconded :)
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RetroGoth wrote:
James Blast wrote:handle it Bill it really is a grower

the extra words are worth the price of admission alone
Seconded :)
Thirded even. :notworthy:

When the extra percussion kicks in towards the end, I defy your mind not to go "whoooooooshhhhhh".
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