Religious Beliefs
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maybe you're not so bad as you thinkSpigel wrote:I Wouldn't Join Any Club that Would Have Me as a Member
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Spigel wrote:I Wouldn't Join Any Club that Would Have Me as a Member
One of my favourite quotes that
Not religious myself, on the atheist side of agnostic I think, but I can see why some people find they need a religion. And if they're cool with it, and don't go to the extremist side of believing, I don't see why there should be any problem with that.
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I know for certain that some people believe, but they only have faith in what they believe in.
Who's in the stronger position?
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Prove it
You don't know anything for certain other than 'cogito ergo sum'. You could be a brain in a vat being fed illusory sense-data for some unknown purpose. </the matrix>
You don't know anything for certain other than 'cogito ergo sum'. You could be a brain in a vat being fed illusory sense-data for some unknown purpose. </the matrix>
The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.
—Bertrand Russell
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Proof is for mathematics and alcohol. I can live with a bit of epistemic uncertainty.
The fundamental cause of the trouble is that in the modern world the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt.
—Bertrand Russell
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It has, and very well too.boudicca wrote:I think "The Gauntlet" has been well and truly thrown down there, Andrew!
I'll need to not be sitting at a desk at work (if, indeed, I am) before I conjure a thoughtful yet witty response!
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Sorry Z. but i think you don't understand what agnostic isObviousman wrote:Spigel wrote:I Wouldn't Join Any Club that Would Have Me as a Member
One of my favourite quotes that
Not religious myself, on the atheist side of agnostic I think, but I can see why some people find they need a religion. And if they're cool with it, and don't go to the extremist side of believing, I don't see why there should be any problem with that.
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Mark more folk need to translate what "cogito ergo sum" means.......markfiend wrote:Prove it
You don't know anything for certain other than 'cogito ergo sum'. You could be a brain in a vat being fed illusory sense-data for some unknown purpose. </the matrix>
.......translated it means:" i think and i am"
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I can no more prove it than you can prove that there is a 'me' asking you to.markfiend wrote:Prove it
You don't know anything for certain other than 'cogito ergo sum'. You could be a brain in a vat being fed illusory sense-data for some unknown purpose. </the matrix>
I'm either giving the vat theory credence because I'm disillusioned with the real world or dis illusion IS the real world. Sorry, bad pun but I couldn't resist.
Maybe I could phrase it as "I know for certain that I think I know for certain....."
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i think really that the folkks need to believe in something.....someone believe in himself...someone else believe in something great....but all of them need respect
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"And when you start to think about death, you start to think about what's after it. And then you start hoping there is a God. For me, it's a frightening thought to go nowhere".
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-No thanks! Not all that interested. I'll stick with the 13th and thereabouts, thanks...Ocean Moves wrote:Welcome to the 21st Century.SINsister wrote:I don't really believe in much of anything. I'm an atheist, but I adore the "trappings" of religion. Walked around quite a few lovely medieval churches whilst on my holibobs, and even lit a candle in my mom's memory in "Shakespeare's Church" (Holy Trinity) in Stratford-Upon-Avon last week... *Shrug*
I'm off to http://www.venetian.com/ in Macau; I hear it's beautiful
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I met a traveller from an antique landSINsister wrote:"Reality" is an illusion. Discuss.
His skin looked like such a pretty emerald
The sky melted as a face on the breeze
I've never seen such bloody tears
Shed as joy over the evening sunrise
And the world watches us turn
...no, I don't know how I can make such crap up, especially when I've not even drunk anything. Oh well. There's your reality, your surreality, and everything inbetween.
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"Heartland" is a delusion. Discuss.
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spoken with a wrinkled lip and sneer of cold commandDark wrote:I met a traveller from an antique landSINsister wrote:"Reality" is an illusion. Discuss.
His skin looked like such a pretty emerald
The sky melted as a face on the breeze
I've never seen such bloody tears
Shed as joy over the evening sunrise
And the world watches us turn
...no, I don't know how I can make such crap up, especially when I've not even drunk anything. Oh well. There's your reality, your surreality, and everything inbetween.
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life is a delusion......nextJames Blast wrote:"Heartland" is a delusion. Discuss.
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Thank you for noticing. I just took the first line of that poem and went from there, writing as I thought.
I'm not sure if this says more about my mind's thought processes which should probably remain unexplored, or my unoriginality at having to rip off Shelley.
I'm not sure if this says more about my mind's thought processes which should probably remain unexplored, or my unoriginality at having to rip off Shelley.
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It's a tried and tested technique, and not to be sneered at, especially around these partsDark wrote:Thank you for noticing. I just took the first line of that poem and went from there, writing as I thought.
I'm not sure if this says more about my mind's thought processes which should probably remain unexplored, or my unoriginality at having to rip off Shelley.
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Thank you, Laz. If I put that to music at some point, I'll make sure to send you it. You never know, I have one person collecting everything I release.. one day maybe it can be more.lazarus corporation wrote:It's a tried and tested technique, and not to be sneered at, especially around these partsDark wrote:Thank you for noticing. I just took the first line of that poem and went from there, writing as I thought.
I'm not sure if this says more about my mind's thought processes which should probably remain unexplored, or my unoriginality at having to rip off Shelley.