Religious Beliefs

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I Wouldn't Join Any Club that Would Have Me as a Member
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Spigel wrote:I Wouldn't Join Any Club that Would Have Me as a Member
maybe you're not so bad as you think
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Spigel wrote:I Wouldn't Join Any Club that Would Have Me as a Member
:lol: :notworthy: :lol: :notworthy: :lol:

One of my favourite quotes that :D

Not religious myself, on the atheist side of agnostic I think, but I can see why some people find they need a religion. And if they're cool with it, and don't go to the extremist side of believing, I don't see why there should be any problem with that.
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I know for certain that some people believe, but they only have faith in what they believe in.

Who's in the stronger position?

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Prove it ;)

You don't know anything for certain other than 'cogito ergo sum'. You could be a brain in a vat being fed illusory sense-data for some unknown purpose. </the matrix>
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I think "The Gauntlet" has been well and truly thrown down there, Andrew! :lol:
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Proof is for mathematics and alcohol. I can live with a bit of epistemic uncertainty. ;D
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boudicca wrote:I think "The Gauntlet" has been well and truly thrown down there, Andrew! :lol:
It has, and very well too.

I'll need to not be sitting at a desk at work (if, indeed, I am) before I conjure a thoughtful yet witty response!
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Obviousman wrote:
Spigel wrote:I Wouldn't Join Any Club that Would Have Me as a Member
:lol: :notworthy: :lol: :notworthy: :lol:

One of my favourite quotes that :D

Not religious myself, on the atheist side of agnostic I think, but I can see why some people find they need a religion. And if they're cool with it, and don't go to the extremist side of believing, I don't see why there should be any problem with that.
Sorry Z. but i think you don't understand what agnostic is :twisted:
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markfiend wrote:Prove it ;)

You don't know anything for certain other than 'cogito ergo sum'. You could be a brain in a vat being fed illusory sense-data for some unknown purpose. </the matrix>
Mark more folk need to translate what "cogito ergo sum" means....... :twisted:
.......translated it means:" i think and i am" :innocent:
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markfiend wrote:Prove it ;)

You don't know anything for certain other than 'cogito ergo sum'. You could be a brain in a vat being fed illusory sense-data for some unknown purpose. </the matrix>
I can no more prove it than you can prove that there is a 'me' asking you to.

I'm either giving the vat theory credence because I'm disillusioned with the real world or dis illusion IS the real world. Sorry, bad pun but I couldn't resist.

Maybe I could phrase it as "I know for certain that I think I know for certain....." ;D
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i think really that the folkks need to believe in something.....someone believe in himself...someone else believe in something great....but all of them need respect
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once a Catholic...


... and practising, suits me, now the rest of you can get on with it
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Ocean Moves wrote:
SINsister wrote:I don't really believe in much of anything. I'm an atheist, but I adore the "trappings" of religion. Walked around quite a few lovely medieval churches whilst on my holibobs, and even lit a candle in my mom's memory in "Shakespeare's Church" (Holy Trinity) in Stratford-Upon-Avon last week... *Shrug*
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-I'd much rather see the real thing. :von:
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"Reality" is an illusion. Discuss.
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SINsister wrote:"Reality" is an illusion. Discuss.
I met a traveller from an antique land
His skin looked like such a pretty emerald
The sky melted as a face on the breeze
I've never seen such bloody tears
Shed as joy over the evening sunrise
And the world watches us turn


...no, I don't know how I can make such crap up, especially when I've not even drunk anything. Oh well. There's your reality, your surreality, and everything inbetween.
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"Heartland" is a delusion. Discuss.
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Dark wrote:
SINsister wrote:"Reality" is an illusion. Discuss.
I met a traveller from an antique land
His skin looked like such a pretty emerald
The sky melted as a face on the breeze
I've never seen such bloody tears
Shed as joy over the evening sunrise
And the world watches us turn


...no, I don't know how I can make such crap up, especially when I've not even drunk anything. Oh well. There's your reality, your surreality, and everything inbetween.
spoken with a wrinkled lip and sneer of cold command
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James Blast wrote:"Heartland" is a delusion. Discuss.
life is a delusion......next
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Thank you for noticing. I just took the first line of that poem and went from there, writing as I thought.
I'm not sure if this says more about my mind's thought processes which should probably remain unexplored, or my unoriginality at having to rip off Shelley.
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I feel like I've had a contusion...


...but I digress...
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Dark wrote:Thank you for noticing. I just took the first line of that poem and went from there, writing as I thought.
I'm not sure if this says more about my mind's thought processes which should probably remain unexplored, or my unoriginality at having to rip off Shelley.
It's a tried and tested technique, and not to be sneered at, especially around these parts ;)
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Can we have a surreality derailment? Nobody would notice...
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lazarus corporation wrote:
Dark wrote:Thank you for noticing. I just took the first line of that poem and went from there, writing as I thought.
I'm not sure if this says more about my mind's thought processes which should probably remain unexplored, or my unoriginality at having to rip off Shelley.
It's a tried and tested technique, and not to be sneered at, especially around these parts ;)
Thank you, Laz. If I put that to music at some point, I'll make sure to send you it. You never know, I have one person collecting everything I release.. one day maybe it can be more.
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