The Sisters of Mercy Forum
That's true but then again it would cause my exact same uproar. Instead of God I would have used Allah.mh wrote:The real irony is that if this had happened in an Islamic country and with the Qur'an, there would have been uproar from the US. Not so different after all.MadameButterfly wrote:Ridiculous! Wrong country, wrong legal system, wrong book. Thanks God for Your people are totally fucking mad!Hom_Corleone wrote: Scary sh1t man.
Yes, but consider the judge in the case...markfiend wrote:There was a case a while back where the jury in a trial here in England tried to use a ouija board to determine guilt or innocence.
That goes under my "wrong legal system". I don't believe in a jury.markfiend wrote:There was a case a while back where the jury in a trial here in England tried to use a ouija board to determine guilt or innocence.
Which introduces an interesting side-bar: under the jury system one's innocence or guilt is supposed to be determined by a "jury of your peers", i.e. "people like you". Presumably people like you would never find you guilty of a crime - if you believed that there was a case to answer then you would have pleaded guilty and foregone the formality of a trial - so it fails right out of the gate. Add to that the fact that jurors will bring their own prejudices to bear (no matter how hard they might try not to), and you end up with a system only slightly more sophisticated than a group of villagers yelling "She's a witch!"MadameButterfly wrote:That goes under my "wrong legal system". I don't believe in a jury.
This is true and the reason I don't believe in a jury. And these jurors can also be bought, or threatened or just be an evil individual or could be influenced in the wrong way. Not to mention if they have any insight into law or not.EvilBastard wrote:Which introduces an interesting side-bar: under the jury system one's innocence or guilt is supposed to be determined by a "jury of your peers", i.e. "people like you". Presumably people like you would never find you guilty of a crime - if you believed that there was a case to answer then you would have pleaded guilty and foregone the formality of a trial - so it fails right out of the gate. Add to that the fact that jurors will bring their own prejudices to bear (no matter how hard they might try not to), and you end up with a system only slightly more sophisticated than a group of villagers yelling "She's a witch!"MadameButterfly wrote:That goes under my "wrong legal system". I don't believe in a jury.
Still the jury again. The system here in the Netherlands is just a panel of judges and I hope that they definately do know the ins and outs of our legal system and it's up to this panel to decide what happens. We don't have the death penality either and even our sentences are quite minimal with regards to the rest of the world. What our judges believe in is a system when the guilty party gets to go to jail if found guilty but also they get to the chance of rehabilitation. Sometimes I don't agree with that depending on what the crime has been. But that's just me.EvilBastard wrote:The French system, where major cases are decided by both a jury and a panel of judges, appears to offer a slightly better system - at least you've got someone who knows the law and can balance the prejudices of the jury members deciding the case.
EvilBastard wrote:Although I have still reckon that there's no better system than Ordeal by Fire/Water/Combat.
See what I mean? You & I both know to trust Kerry though!markfiend wrote:Kerry was on a jury a while ago. She said she was the only juror who took it at all seriously; no-one else took any notes, stuff like that.
The crew said they had been distracted by a "heated discussion" but officials will check if they had fallen asleep.
Yes.James Blast wrote: wasn't Richard Norris the other half of The Grid?
Cool!Hom_Corleone wrote:Interesting article about Garry Cobain for any of you heads out there.
Aye!! Very exciting stuff. Wish I could get a job at NASA!mh wrote:http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/art ... AD9BV10180
It's official - there's water on them thar moon.
Greg is MP for, amongst others, Leeds Six. Must be something in the water!Pista wrote:M.P.s say something sensible.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/8357921.stm
Ban the "reply to all" button.
Erm... surely this includes marriage itself?This state or a political subdivision of this state may not create or recognize any legal status identical or similar to marriage.
Yeah, thank fuck I didn't bother trying to get ticketsHom_Corleone wrote:Great news
DerekR wrote:Yeah, thank fuck I didn't bother trying to get ticketsHom_Corleone wrote:Great news
That is until you find out The Charlatans are headlining one of the other nights. 
