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Posted: 25 Jul 2011, 18:30
by Johnny Rev 7.0
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Amy's demise is also being debated on the fora I frequent. And I totally agree with Ness' comment, that the reaction on HL is the most spiteful.
Her music was a style/genre that never appealed to me. But I will acknowledge the fact she had a damn good voice. Just not my cup of tea.
She was a human being. Someone's daughter. Someone's sister. She had a brother. And despite the s**t being spouted on here, I'm sure she had close friends.
I kinda think that when the bad boys on this thread come looking for sympathy; maybe because someone close to them has shuffled of this mortal coil, they may be wanking in the wind.
You reap what you sow.
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Posted: 25 Jul 2011, 19:14
by emilystrange
i do have a friend who knew amy fairly well, though he hasn't seen her properly for ages. he is very upset. amy gave him the nickname he goes by.
Posted: 25 Jul 2011, 19:29
by weebleswobble
Train wreck of a thread
Posted: 25 Jul 2011, 19:31
by James Blast
yawn...
Posted: 25 Jul 2011, 19:33
by moses
James Blast wrote:yawn...
f**k Off!!
Posted: 25 Jul 2011, 19:35
by James Blast
yes dear
Posted: 25 Jul 2011, 19:37
by radiojamaica
christophe wrote:well, I was/am a fan of her music. and don't even care about the tabloid thing
Same goes for me.
I still remember very well when I got to know her. It was around the time of her debut album 'Frank', so it must have been 2003/2004 and late at night I was watching the BBC reporting from Glastonbury... Then a new artist was asked to do a solo acoustic song backstage and she came 'round with a guitarist and just blew me away. Very raw & bluesy. No pretty popstar type thing, not at all. I was really impressed.
I bought both her albums since and loved them and was really looking forward to more...
You may not like her or her music, but the girl had talent and died way too young. RiP miss Winehouse.
Posted: 25 Jul 2011, 20:03
by pikkrong
It happened some years ago. I was sitting an drinking with my friend in a bar. Suddenly my friend, a talanted musician and leader of a local garage rock band said: "Listen... she's actually really good! Despite of all sh't they talk about her..."
Me: "Who is she and what do they talk about?"
My friend: "Amy Winehouse... you know, all this cr'p about drugs and so on..."
I wasn't sure I have heard anything, maybe I was, can't remember anymore. But she was good, really good singer. She impressed me back then and approximately year ago when I was thinking band or artist I still haven't seen but would like to, she was one of them. No idea why she crossed my mind. It never happened.
Rest in peace.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSRsgJwr6jk
Posted: 25 Jul 2011, 20:38
by weebleswobble
Troll boy alert:please keep all opinions to yourself.[/b]
Posted: 25 Jul 2011, 21:32
by markfiend
Johnny Rev 7.0 wrote:<rock>
Amy's demise is also being debated on the fora I frequent. And I totally agree with Ness' comment, that the reaction on HL is the most spiteful.
Her music was a style/genre that never appealed to me. But I will acknowledge the fact she had a damn good voice. Just not my cup of tea.
She was a human being. Someone's daughter. Someone's sister. She had a brother. And despite the s**t being spouted on here, I'm sure she had close friends.
I kinda think that when the bad boys on this thread come looking for sympathy; maybe because someone close to them has shuffled of this mortal coil, they may be wanking in the wind.
You reap what you sow.
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Well said
johnny
IMO some of the posts on this thread are
bang out of order.
Posted: 25 Jul 2011, 21:36
by damagedone
just let her rest in peace,i really doubt that if you had seen her live would say all that s**t in her face.It maters not anymore
Posted: 25 Jul 2011, 21:48
by christophe
damagedone wrote:... It maters not anymore
yes and no.
that is what decency is all about you know.
we are all free to have what ever opinion we might have, even though we might not agrea on those of others. but leave it as that.
a lot of people should just keep their mouth shut.
Posted: 26 Jul 2011, 18:46
by Closer73
I've seen some pretty awful things said elsewhere too- some of my 'alternative' friends spouting some pretty disgusting vitriol that's inversely as bad as the blind fawning from the general population. As a reaction, I put this up as my (social-network-not-named) status:
'Regardless of blame, discussions about media coverage, drug use and terrorism, avoidable deaths are always tragic.
Behind every drug-addled popstar and every massacre victim are families experiencing profound grief that you have or will experience at some point in your life too. That is all.'
Posted: 26 Jul 2011, 19:40
by DocSommer
emilystrange wrote:no, she made a living from singing. other people made a living out of her being a mess.
Welcome to the circle of life, except it's not realistic that someone made a living from singing without the support of those "other people" in the first place.
RIP Britney Winehouse ..argh... Amy Spears.. argh... Amy Winehouse..
Posted: 26 Jul 2011, 19:59
by emilystrange
paparazzi do not support. those who buy the tabloids to point and gloat and jeer and gossip do not support. those who print the pictures and gossip do not support.
there is hell of a difference between 'support' and 'publicity'.
i have never been a believer that fame should have press harassment as an expected, accepted consequence. i DO believe that the public's acceptance of it and thirst for tittle-tattle played its part in the hacking scandals.
we tolerated this, and our children WERE next.
Posted: 26 Jul 2011, 20:33
by markfiend
emilystrange wrote:paparazzi do not support. those who buy the tabloids to point and gloat and jeer and gossip do not support. those who print the pictures and gossip do not support.
there is hell of a difference between 'support' and 'publicity'.
i have never been a believer that fame should have press harassment as an expected, accepted consequence. i DO believe that the public's acceptance of it and thirst for tittle-tattle played its part in the hacking scandals.
we tolerated this, and our children WERE next.
Posted: 26 Jul 2011, 20:33
by DocSommer
Shure - it's always everyone's else fault if some people start acting like stupid drug-who*e celebrities instead of maintaining a stable career like most other musicians or - in case you can't handle success - press the escape button and get loose from the public stepwise.
I haven't seen many "press harassments" showing up without feeding these campaings with something "fitting" in the first place. Usually that's not happening really unwanted or by accident because even negative appearing PR is a valid and quite powerful sort of PR.
Posted: 26 Jul 2011, 20:43
by emilystrange
amy had her faults and problems. but the issues are not all about her...
Posted: 26 Jul 2011, 20:59
by DocSommer
Due to a lack of interest I'm not really 100% familiar with that specific case - I just wanted to point out that it's not uncommon if some celeb is forcing that kind of PR strategy (e.g. Spears, Hilton..). Of course it's quite a fragile border between staging and dismantling yourself if one make the decision to play that game - probably kind of a one way ticket. AW just fits in that scheme perfectly - (imho - based on a very few lyrics I've picked up).
Posted: 26 Jul 2011, 21:11
by emilystrange
that sort of PR forcing is indeed wrong, and should be treated with disdain. i'm not convinced AW was ever guilty of this, however. also, need to consider who is doing the PR forcing - some celebs are so out of it they don't know, i'm sure. back to others making money out of the mess...
Posted: 27 Jul 2011, 03:12
by Dan
I wasn't a fan but of the songs I heard I thought she had a decent voice.
One of many musicians who had it all and threw it all away. Very sad.
I noticed from the news footage that as well as floral tributes many people were leaving beer cans and various drinks bottles. That's a bit insensitive, like leaving shell cases for someone who was shot.
Posted: 27 Jul 2011, 06:35
by bearskin
She only really sprang to fame after I had left England for other waters, so I kinda missed the whole shebang about her. I thought she had a monster of a voice tho. Perhaps in a different era she might have survived the celebrity plague, maybe not tho - paparazzi harassment must be a right b@st@rd.
Posted: 27 Jul 2011, 18:05
by Dark
Let's make it more simple:
I'm not surprised she died. Nor am I a fan of her music. However, a death is a death, my sympathies to her and hers, and those who
were upset by the news.
There, that wasn't so hard, was it?
Posted: 27 Jul 2011, 18:36
by markfiend
Dan wrote:I noticed from the news footage that as well as floral tributes many people were leaving beer cans and various drinks bottles. That's a bit insensitive, like leaving shell cases for someone who was shot.
Wow. Really? o.O
Posted: 27 Jul 2011, 19:39
by emilystrange
not very tactful, no...