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Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 00:34
by SmileySister
Swinnow wrote:We decided during our college days, back in prehistory, that the choice of HP or Ketchup was a dead good guide as to someone's origin.
We still refer to Ketchup as Southern Sauce and Brown Sauce as Northern Sauce.

I like the HP Fruity on a bacon and egg batch or is it called a barm or a bun or a bread roll :?

Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 01:00
by Swinnow
More food-based thread derailing lol.

It's a batch back home on Murkeyside, but a tea cake here in Leeds.

Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 01:02
by EmmaPeelWannaBe
and when is a bun a butty? as a californian, my education is lacking in these matters.

Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 01:06
by SmileySister
EmmaPeelWannaBe wrote:and when is a bun a butty? as a californian, my education is lacking in these matters.
A butty is usually two pieces of bread with a filling in the middle

Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 01:09
by EmmaPeelWannaBe
Swinnow wrote:
but a tea cake here in Leeds.
and is a tea cake, not in fact cake?

Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 01:09
by Swinnow
In England a butty is a sandwich but in Welsh Wales it means a friend.

Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 01:14
by EmmaPeelWannaBe
Swinnow wrote:In England a butty is a sandwich but in Welsh Wales it means a friend.
now that is just nuts. and like to end in cannibalism.

Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 02:18
by Afflikönig
EmmaPeelWannaBe wrote:
Swinnow wrote:
but a tea cake here in Leeds.
and is a tea cake, not in fact cake?
That's a rabbit hole you don't want to go down :lol:

Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 02:31
by Swinnow
Yeah, we've been here before, mind you, a few sandwich shops in north Leeds got some free advertising lol

Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 03:59
by EvilBastard
SmileySister wrote:
EmmaPeelWannaBe wrote:and when is a bun a butty? as a californian, my education is lacking in these matters.
A butty is usually two pieces of bread with a filling in the middle
But critically the bread must be buttered, otherwise it's just a...bready.

And just to confuse the issue further, a butty is also a type of unpowered narrowboat/canal barge.

Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 04:02
by EvilBastard
Critical questions:

1. To Dunk or not To Dunk?
2. Mug or Cup?
3. Chocolate - is it the top or the bottom?
4. Can I have a fag?

Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 09:34
by An
My question would be; what happened to him after Vision Thing? I mean after that his creativity, his musical energy or motivation seemed to have gone.
It´s interesting, because when you compare rockmusicians with, say, classiccomposers, you will see that the rockmusicians tend to peak musically and energywise in their twenties, although composers in their later lifes. Different mindscape? Sexual drives and narcissity? A more mathematical approach of the composers instead the more gutsy rockmusicians?
That would be my question.

Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 16:52
by EmmaPeelWannaBe
EvilBastard wrote:Critical questions:

1. To Dunk or not To Dunk?
2. Mug or Cup?
3. Chocolate - is it the top or the bottom?
4. Can I have a fag?
5. Ginger Nuts - yes or no?

Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 17:19
by SmileySister
EmmaPeelWannaBe wrote:
EvilBastard wrote:Critical questions:

1. To Dunk or not To Dunk?
2. Mug or Cup?
3. Chocolate - is it the top or the bottom?
4. Can I have a fag?
5. Ginger Nuts - yes or no?
1. Not
2. Mug
3. Top
4. Definitely yes
5. No

Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 17:23
by EmmaPeelWannaBe
SmileySister wrote:
EmmaPeelWannaBe wrote:
EvilBastard wrote:Critical questions:


5. Ginger Nuts - yes or no?
5. No
Inside knowledge, Smiley?

Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 17:41
by SmileySister
EmmaPeelWannaBe wrote:
SmileySister wrote:
EmmaPeelWannaBe wrote: 5. No
Inside knowledge, Smiley?
Can I plead the 5th Amendment?

Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 17:50
by EmmaPeelWannaBe
SmileySister wrote:
EmmaPeelWannaBe wrote:
SmileySister wrote: Inside knowledge, Smiley?
Can I plead the 5th Amendment?
Only if you're in the U.S.

Posted: 13 Apr 2017, 23:50
by zaltys7
An wrote:My question would be; what happened to him after Vision Thing? I mean after that his creativity, his musical energy or motivation seemed to have gone.
It´s interesting, because when you compare rockmusicians with, say, classiccomposers, you will see that the rockmusicians tend to peak musically and energywise in their twenties, although composers in their later lifes. Different mindscape? Sexual drives and narcissity? A more mathematical approach of the composers instead the more gutsy rockmusicians?
That would be my question.
Thank you. an interesting question amongst the detritus. I too wonder why the apathy set in, a spat with a record company seems a handy excuse for a complete lack of creative output from UTG onwards. Maybe he just can't be bothered, and if that's the case we are not talking about a real artist are we.

Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 00:13
by Chaotican
zaltys7 wrote:
An wrote:My question would be; what happened to him after Vision Thing? (etc).
Thank you. an interesting question amongst the detritus. I too wonder why the apathy set in, a spat with a record company seems a handy excuse for a complete lack of creative output from UTG onwards. Maybe he just can't be bothered, and if that's the case we are not talking about a real artist are we.
Getting a bit off topic, but I find art and its purpose (both the creation and the consumption) fascinating. I'm not sure that Andrew, now or ever, fits the bill for an artist who has given up on creating art, but must that always mean that they aren't a true artist? Couldn't that be the end state of expression? The knowledge and acceptance that conveying something meaningful is not possible?

At any rate, most humans would answer nuanced questions like this differently depending on mood and circumstance. It's impossible to get "truth" in a static answer (or an interview for that matter) but you can learn various things in a conversation.

Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 03:49
by sultan2075
I would ask, over a bottle of fine (Texas) whisky:

a) What makes you think you understand Hegel?

b) What do you make Georg to actually mean?

c) Shall we open another bottle?

d) Do you think Hegel's influence has been pernicious or otherwise?

(For the record: I'm not a fan of Hegel, to put it mildly. I'd like to think I understand his thought enough to appreciate it, but the metaphysics are, to my mind, all kinds of wrong).

Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 15:52
by Microcosmia
sultan2075 wrote:
a) What makes you think you understand Hegel?

Has he actually stated that he does? If he has then maybe the master-slave dialectic might reflect his woes with the music industry and some musicians :)

b) What do you make Georg to actually mean? c) Shall we open another bottle?

Taking these together would he even give the time of day to Georg given that he can apparently be "out consumed by Hume"? :D

Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 22:10
by Swinnow
Mr Von, sir, do you prefer the Sheesh or the Polash if your mood swings in the direction of curry>

Posted: 15 Apr 2017, 10:52
by eastmidswhizzkid
when you were at the height of your sartorial impactfulness, and the sisters were at their hugest in terms of their public image, when all the (fat-in-crushed-velvet) goth birds wanted to look like patsy, and all the (painfully thin and pimply) goth boys wanted to look like you, was the decision to lose one of your gloves deliberate? because if ilooked a right cunt in one edwardian ladies dress glove, so did you. :P

Posted: 16 Apr 2017, 00:50
by zaltys7
Chaotican wrote:
zaltys7 wrote:
An wrote:My question would be; what happened to him after Vision Thing? (etc).
Thank you. an interesting question amongst the detritus. I too wonder why the apathy set in, a spat with a record company seems a handy excuse for a complete lack of creative output from UTG onwards. Maybe he just can't be bothered, and if that's the case we are not talking about a real artist are we.
Getting a bit off topic, but I find art and its purpose (both the creation and the consumption) fascinating. I'm not sure that Andrew, now or ever, fits the bill for an artist who has given up on creating art, but must that always mean that they aren't a true artist? Couldn't that be the end state of expression? The knowledge and acceptance that conveying something meaningful is not possible?

IAt any rate, most humans would answer nuanced questions like this differently depending on mood and circumstance. It's impossible to get "truth" in a static answer (or an interview for that matter) but you can learn various things in a conversation.
totally understand where you come from. BUT at the same time an artist must surely create? I see no creation, or at least I see no will to create meaningfully. I hear a bunch of half arsed songs on dodgy bootlegs. Okay, so he no longer has anything relevant to say, in which case, stop pretending you have, and shut the f**k up.

Posted: 16 Apr 2017, 03:35
by Being645
Everyone is an artist - Joseph Beuys