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Posted: 16 Mar 2017, 22:33
by Microcosmia
EvilBastard wrote:Apparently the correct pronunciation of Nice rhymes with ice, lice, and (if you come from the Home Counties) house.
And so another childhood certainty disintegrates into crumbs. I thought my mother was infallible on this one
Posted: 16 Mar 2017, 22:52
by Swinnow
Weren't they originally called faite à nice, as in made in nice, which would suggest the niece pronunciation.
Posted: 17 Mar 2017, 00:57
by EvilBastard
Swinnow wrote:Weren't they originally called faite à nice, as in made in nice, which would suggest the niece pronunciation.
Well, that's what the Australians claim (and I'm not entirely sure we should trust anyone who celebrates Christmas in the middle of the summer). However,
St. Paedo of Wiki disagrees, as does
Hill Biscuits, who claim that they were
Hill Biscuits wrote:simply named because of their "nice" taste. This was apparently changed when Queen Victoria visited Nice in France and took these, her favourite biscuits with her.
And although I would never ever attempt to take issue with
Microcosmia's mum, because that's not a nice thing (no pun intended) to do, I suspect that they started to be pronounced "Niece" biscuits because people thought that that was a bit more sophisticated, and the net-curtain-and-ceramic-dog brigade probably felt that it was "common" to refer to them as "Nice".
Posted: 17 Mar 2017, 01:02
by mh
This is all well & good but I was perfectly happy to call them "disgusting" and be done with it.
Posted: 17 Mar 2017, 01:50
by Swinnow
EvilBastard wrote:Well, that's what the Australians claim......
It was my Mum what said it, and she wasn't named Sheila or claimed to be Australian, she was of Irish stock, probably why she agreed with Microcosmia's Mum.
Posted: 17 Mar 2017, 09:51
by Microcosmia
Swinnow wrote:EvilBastard wrote:Well, that's what the Australians claim......
It was my Mum what said it, and she wasn't named Sheila or claimed to be Australian, she was of Irish stock, probably why she agreed with Microcosmia's Mum.
It might be a peculiarly Irish thing alright. Maybe it's the real reason Ireland alone had to vote twice on the Nice Treaty
Posted: 17 Mar 2017, 15:38
by Chaotican
I thought of this thread last night when I read the question, "What do they call English muffins in England?"
The answer...eventually... was "just muffins". And now I need to know if you have muffins. Blueberry, bran, chocolate chip little cupcakes with a paper wrapper and a bulbous top. I can't remember ever seeing one over there.
I'm also wondering what KFC calls a biscuit in the UK, but I'll google that. I want you to enlighten me about the muffin.
EDIT: I googled the KFC menu. YOU DON'T HAVE BISUCUITS??
Posted: 17 Mar 2017, 15:52
by Pista
Chaotican wrote:I thought of this thread last night when I read the question, "What do they call English muffins in England?"
The answer...eventually... was "just muffins". And now I need to know if you have muffins. Blueberry, bran, chocolate chip little cupcakes with a paper wrapper and a bulbous top. I can't remember ever seeing one over there.
I'm also wondering what KFC calls a biscuit in the UK, but I'll google that. I want you to enlighten me about the muffin.
EDIT: I googled the KFC menu. YOU DON'T HAVE BISUCUITS??
Yeah, biscuit in the US is a wee bit different to the rest of the world.
As for muffins, I guess an "English" muffin would be best named "breakfast" muffin & are totally different to muffins (confused yet?)
I wouldn't dunk either in tea or coffee though. They would disintegrate almost immediately
Posted: 17 Mar 2017, 15:55
by markfiend
The things that you call muffins, we tend to call "cakes", "cupcakes", or "muffins" (despite "English muffins" also being muffins).
The nearest thing that you'll get to an American biscuit in the UK is probably a scone, which tends to be sweet rather than savoury.
Posted: 17 Mar 2017, 15:55
by Swinnow
Yeah, when I was young a muffin was totally different. Google an 'oven bottom muffin' and you'll see what they used to look like. Nowadays the term is taken to mean the "American" muffin.
Posted: 17 Mar 2017, 16:20
by EvilBastard
When I was young, a muffin was a marionette in the form of a mule.
And no, we don't have American biscuits in England. We do, however, have crumpets.
Posted: 17 Mar 2017, 17:35
by Alex66
EvilBastard wrote:When I was young, a muffin was a marionette in the form of a mule.
And no, we don't have American biscuits in England. We do, however, have crumpets.
Crumpets being the king of bread products.
Posted: 17 Mar 2017, 17:35
by Pista
Alex66 wrote:EvilBastard wrote:When I was young, a muffin was a marionette in the form of a mule.
And no, we don't have American biscuits in England. We do, however, have crumpets.
Crumpets being the king of bread products.
I make my own
Posted: 17 Mar 2017, 17:43
by Chaotican
I understand the regional preferences for what people do with flour, and I even buy crumpets sometimes.
But...Kentucky Fried Chicken is about the biscuit. That's their thing. Its like Pizza Hut skipping the pizza in Japan in favor of sushi. Just...no!
Posted: 17 Mar 2017, 18:25
by Swinnow
Can't beat a bit of crumpet
Posted: 17 Mar 2017, 18:27
by Pista
Chaotican wrote:
But...Kentucky Fried Chicken is about the biscuit.
I tried that biscuit when I lived in Fort Worth & it was drowned in white gravy. I was told it was delish.
It wasn't.
Posted: 17 Mar 2017, 19:03
by EvilBastard
I used to stay in a Holiday Inn Express fairly regularly for work, and they did sausage "patties", biscuits, and "sawmill" gravy at the breakfast buffet. My standards may be low, but the breakfasts were the highpoint of those work trips. I've nothing against American biscuits, per see - I just wish they wouldn't call them biscuits. It's very confusing.
Posted: 17 Mar 2017, 19:04
by EvilBastard
Swinnow wrote:Can't beat a bit of crumpet
Well, you can, so long as she's ok with that. It takes all sorts...
Posted: 17 Mar 2017, 20:44
by Chaotican
EvilBastard wrote:I used to stay in a Holiday Inn Express fairly regularly for work, and they did sausage "patties", biscuits, and "sawmill" gravy at the breakfast buffet. My standards may be low, but the breakfasts were the highpoint of those work trips. I've nothing against American biscuits, per see - I just wish they wouldn't call them biscuits. It's very confusing.
Oh, biscuits are vile pieces of lard and gluten, no doubt. I have a lot against them. They just belong with KFC. Which is also fairly vile.
Biscuit = American cookie. (Oddly, though, dog cookies are still called biscuits.)
Posted: 17 Mar 2017, 21:32
by Swinnow
Just caught my mate dipping a biccy in her cider before we hit Leeds for a bevy or three. Not the behaviour I expect from a Cheshire girl lol
Posted: 18 Mar 2017, 20:08
by UnnaturalDisaster
I've always thought of American "biscuits" as sub-par scones.
Posted: 18 Mar 2017, 20:11
by UnnaturalDisaster
Swinnow wrote:Just caught my mate dipping a biccy in her cider before we hit Leeds for a bevy or three. Not the behaviour I expect from a Cheshire girl lol
I'm both appalled and intrigued...
Posted: 20 Mar 2017, 18:34
by Being645
Before I read through this lovely thread and researched a bit about traditions, I had no idea that things like this could ever exist ...
https://de.pinterest.com/artasyoulikeit/dunk-mug/ ...
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Posted: 20 Mar 2017, 18:37
by Pista
About time the Sisters online store had some
Posted: 20 Mar 2017, 19:47
by iesus