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My mom speaks fluent Dutch (She lived in The Netherlands until she was 16) and I can agree with you that Dutch sounds a whole lot better than Afrikaans. I can just about understand a Dutch conversation, thanks to my Grandmother.Obviousman wrote:And what's more... It's terribly funny to hear for anyone speaking decent Dutchhallucienate wrote:Afrikaans is a bastardised version of Dutch, it's got bit of German, English and Malay thrown in for good messure.
That's an excellent idea...christophe wrote:Lets finish this conversation after the gig
After some nice belgian beer I'll have considerable trouble pronouncing anything...christophe wrote:with some nice belgian beer you will have no trouble pronouncing the ch but we'll problably all sound like we are speaking Afrikaans
I'm in for helping you to explain it allchristophe wrote:Lets finish this conversation after the gig
with some nice belgian beer you will have no trouble pronouncing the ch but we'll problably all sound like we are speaking Afrikaans
But our 'g' -sound is also a lot softer than our Holland colleagues, who make it a really guttural sound. That's why it's called a 'soft g'. The 'ch' here in Flanders is indeed more the 'g' sound they use in Holland... to make things more understandeableObviousman wrote:It's ch in Dutch too, but I can't think of any examples right nowEva wrote:I meant that sound which in Swissgerman is "ch" (in "High" German too, but much softer, without that throat-clearing sound), and in Spanish is J. What is/are the letter/s for it in Flemish? I only know the people there talked Flemish, but I haven't seen them writing it.Obviousman wrote: If you mean ch, it's said like the Spanish say J, if you mean Limburg-pronounced G (because hasselt is Limburg) it's just a very soft sounding G, can't explain that, still, it's funny too
Since 8.30 this morning actuallyObviousman wrote:Flanders seems to be awake
Well, Marc was speaking Flemish and I was speaking English; but each of us remembered it five years later as the other way round!Obviousman wrote:Probably you were speaking West-Flemish, it's very closely related to English (really, and that's why not a single Dutch speaking person can get a clue what they say
Hazel as it is pronounced in English without the 'h'? Sounds like 'Ezel' then, translation of the English 'donkey'markfiend wrote:Well, Marc was speaking Flemish and I was speaking English; but each of us remembered it five years later as the other way round!Obviousman wrote:Probably you were speaking West-Flemish, it's very closely related to English (really, and that's why not a single Dutch speaking person can get a clue what they say
But yeah, Flemish (and Dutch and Afrikaans) are closely related enough to English that I can understand a lot of the spoken languages.
On a related note, there was an episode of "Friends" where Ross pretended to know Dutch; Gunther called him an asshole (in Dutch - I think - it sounded like the English word "hazel" without the h)
Ross said "you're an (azel)" and Gunther said (in Dutch again) what I'm sure was "You f**k arseholes"
Yes, unless you stand in front of a food stall @ Pukkelpop and they refuse to serve you if you don't order in Flemish (happened to one of the british fellows I've been there with in 2001)...Izzy HaveMercy wrote:And do not worry about a tourism office NOT understanding English, we Belgians adapt to ALL languages easily!
As long as you speak slow and try to talk decent English...
IZ.
And speaking French may give you some problems too, so you better not do that, all those Flemish fundamentalistsEva wrote:Yes, unless you stand in front of a food stall @ Pukkelpop and they refuse to serve you if you don't order in Flemish (happened to one of the british fellows I've been there with in 2001)...Izzy HaveMercy wrote:And do not worry about a tourism office NOT understanding English, we Belgians adapt to ALL languages easily!
As long as you speak slow and try to talk decent English...
IZ.
Only Glesga people...Obviousman wrote:Never heard about anyone refusing to talk English though
hallucienate wrote:oh! so glaswegian is to english what afrikaans is to dutch?
James Blast wrote:Shuttit Bawheid!
or a good stabbing will be heading your way
The only significant difference being that Afrikaners have a double negation, whereas Glaswegians never understood the meaning of the word 'no'hallucienate wrote:oh! so glaswegian is to english what afrikaans is to dutch?
Izzy HaveMercy wrote:The only significant difference being that Afrikaners have a double negation, whereas Glaswegians never understood the meaning of the word 'no'hallucienate wrote:oh! so glaswegian is to english what afrikaans is to dutch?
IZ.
ze verstaan dus à lles?hallucienate wrote:Izzy HaveMercy wrote:The only significant difference being that Afrikaners have a double negation, whereas Glaswegians never understood the meaning of the word 'no'hallucienate wrote:oh! so glaswegian is to english what afrikaans is to dutch?
IZ.
hulle verstaan niks nie
That's how I like my steak, thank you very much!!!James Blast wrote:
kinder lingersMaybe it's because I'm a cunning linguist
You don't know nothin' you!Izzy HaveMercy wrote:The only significant difference being that Afrikaners have a double negation, whereas Glaswegians never understood the meaning of the word 'no'hallucienate wrote:oh! so glaswegian is to english what afrikaans is to dutch?
IZ.
The Cure?Obviousman wrote:Bad news in the newspapers this morning,
Von got himself a pretty good excuse not to come to the Lokerse Feesten, because there's this other band they've booked (albeit on wednesday, two days after the Sisters):
The Cure