Heartland

has to be in everyone's top 10 doesn't it?

..but i was musing over the song at the weekend

9 * 9 = 81

the year it all started because of failed relationship (i think)

obsessive saddo or something in it. Discuss

Oh and whilst i was searching -

http://www.timelord.co.uk/fiction/alter ... while9.htm

don't ask me i'm just letting you know it's there

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Obsessive saddos are the best

DarkMagik wrote:I thought Nine while Nine was about waiting from nine pm to nine am on a destiny that was never going to come.

Hi Dark, welcome to HL

So do most people, including me, but sometimes we like to look deeper, well especially if we're bored at work or summat

Nine while nine also plays "very" closly on an eliot poem, I forget which right now........but trust me it does

Yes, welcome to Heartland, DarkMagik!

Erm...sorry, but I've nothing to add to this thread... *Hides*

I read (or perhaps heard*) an interview with VON about the meaning of "Nine While Nine" - TS Eliot aside - the term "Nine While Nine" refers to a local saying in the Leeds/York (Yorkshire) area. Perhaps Quiffy can confirm this?

Von reffered to the term meaning that stores/shops (newsagents/off licences etc) are/were open 'Nine (am) While Nine (pm) - I guess that "Seven Eleven" (7am-11pm) would be todays equivalent.

@ Paint It Black - like the "Heathers" avatar
@ Quiffy Boy - What IS your new avatar all about?

*The interview MAY be the 7" one given away with Spiral Scratch back in 89?

AndyTheGoth wrote:I read (or perhaps heard*) an interview with VON about the meaning of "Nine While Nine" - TS Eliot aside - the term "Nine While Nine" refers to a local saying in the Leeds/York (Yorkshire) area. Perhaps Quiffy can confirm this?

Von reffered to the term meaning that stores/shops (newsagents/off licences etc) are/were open 'Nine (am) While Nine (pm) - I guess that "Seven Eleven" (7am-11pm) would be todays equivalent.

@ Paint It Black - like the "Heathers" avatar
@ Quiffy Boy - What IS your new avatar all about?

*The interview MAY be the 7" one given away with Spiral Scratch back in 89?

indeed, and not just in yakshire. they have it in lancashire too. in fact its a fairly common northern expression and means exactly waht you've said it does

my avatar? its the label of a record by a detroit techno "collective" known as underground resistance

i used to have quite a bit of stuff by them - very dark and very scary! darker than any current darkwave synthgoth rubbish...

@ Quiffy - I knew that you would know! BTW is it "Hertlands" first birthday within the next couple of days? Or am I being a Bloody G***

[quote="Quiff Boy"][quote="AndyTheGoth"]I read (or perhaps heard*) an interview with VON about the meaning of "Nine While Nine" - TS Eliot aside - the term "Nine While Nine" refers to a local saying in the Leeds/York (Yorkshire) area. Perhaps Quiffy can confirm this?

Von reffered to the term meaning that stores/shops (newsagents/off licences etc) are/were open 'Nine (am) While Nine (pm) - I guess that "Seven Eleven" (7am-11pm) would be todays equivalent.

@ Paint It Black - like the "Heathers" avatar


>>Cheers mate, one of my favs


see Eliot - the love song of j.alfred prufrock

and ignore AE he's full of s**t

The best imagery I have gotten from the song is the following sapping off my previous post but with more details.

The protagonist (Eldritch to some) is waiting for the train in the bitter cold.

Synopsis: In Victoria Station, Eldritch is awaiting for destiny, the vulnerable amour of the inevitable. An eternal love that never arrives, the bitter cold wind that continues to blow ever and anon the undeniable doubt of a future left in its wake. A tale of but a piece in a life (on singular moment frozen in time) hanging in the fragile mercy of incredulity...

Where does Victoria Station come from? I always imagined it as a small, probably Northern station...walking through the rain, frost upon the window pane... conjures up somewhere small and lonely to me, deserted and desolate...

MrChris wrote:Where does Victoria Station come from? I always imagined it as a small, probably Northern station...walking through the rain, frost upon the window pane... conjures up somewhere small and lonely to me, deserted and desolate...

that would be leeds whitehall then?

http://www.railway-technology.com/proje ... oast5.html

Quiff Boy wrote:

MrChris wrote:Where does Victoria Station come from? I always imagined it as a small, probably Northern station...walking through the rain, frost upon the window pane... conjures up somewhere small and lonely to me, deserted and desolate...

that would be leeds whitehall then?

http://www.railway-technology.com/proje ... oast5.html

Not Manchester Victoria then? (on his way to see the Red Devils?)

http://www.describe-online.com/br/manch ... incham.htm

The last time I was there it was pretty grim, cold and deserted!

Big Si wrote:

Quiff Boy wrote:

MrChris wrote:Where does Victoria Station come from? I always imagined it as a small, probably Northern station...walking through the rain, frost upon the window pane... conjures up somewhere small and lonely to me, deserted and desolate...

that would be leeds whitehall then?

http://www.railway-technology.com/proje ... oast5.html

Not Manchester Victoria then? (on his way to see the Red Devils?)

http://www.describe-online.com/br/manch ... incham.htm

the slough of despond? hmm, that would tie in with the desolate thing

That would indeed sew the whole mystery up, Holmes. He was depressed because he was a red devil, having to share the train with all those southerners going to the match...

Where did they perform it live?

http://sisterstrading.com/Audio/1985.html

Ah...Just Leeds and Newcastle then!

http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/sistersrarities33/
http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/sistersrarities34/

Is that the boot called Gimme Shelter? (Newcastle Tiffanys?)

Jim wrote:Is that the boot called Gimme Shelter? (Newcastle Tiffanys?)

Disguised in Black - http://www.sisterstrading.com/Bootlegs/ ... lack1.html

Big Si wrote:

Jim wrote:Is that the boot called Gimme Shelter? (Newcastle Tiffanys?)

Disguised in Black - http://www.sisterstrading.com/Bootlegs/ ... lack1.html

That's the one! My version is called "Gimme Shelter", by "Great Dane" records in Finland (or somewhere) - it's really good quality.

It's the one where someone in the crowd yells "skinny bastard" and von goes "its not my fault, i was born looking like this"

Classic stuff.

Great gig, that. That's also the one where Von inexplicably says that A Rock and a Hard Place is 'a song about John Cale'. Does anyone know the story behind that?

MrChris wrote:Great gig, that. That's also the one where Von inexplicably says that A Rock and a Hard Place is 'a song about John Cale'. Does anyone know the story behind that?

And "Amphetamine Logic" is for the students in the balcony.....

MrChris wrote:Great gig, that. That's also the one where Von inexplicably says that A Rock and a Hard Place is 'a song about John Cale'. Does anyone know the story behind that?

yes

khepri II wrote:

MrChris wrote:Great gig, that. That's also the one where Von inexplicably says that A Rock and a Hard Place is 'a song about John Cale'. Does anyone know the story behind that?

yes

Don't be mean

Jim wrote:

khepri II wrote:

MrChris wrote:Great gig, that. That's also the one where Von inexplicably says that A Rock and a Hard Place is 'a song about John Cale'. Does anyone know the story behind that?

yes

Don't be mean

okay, if you tell me why body and soul is about Christopher Marlowe!

Deal

Jim wrote:

khepri II wrote:

MrChris wrote:Great gig, that. That's also the one where Von inexplicably says that A Rock and a Hard Place is 'a song about John Cale'. Does anyone know the story behind that?

yes

Don't be mean

@Jim

John Cale was a musician in the Velvet Underground and they used to cover a VU track

, or

try

The Soul of Patrick Lee

if you're still stuck i might tell you more