Heartland

I was wondering earlier about the line "the threatened witness my defence".

Does he mean:

• The threatened witness [is] my defence, or
• "The threatened" witness my defence

Answers on a postcard.

From the intonation of the line, I think it's "The threatened witness is my defence".

EvilBastard wrote:From the intonation of the line, I think it's "The threatened witness is my defence".

Aye....

Sorry if that last post was a little brief - I was somewhat distracted. The logic behind the thought was that the whole song revolves around some of the more unpleasant aspects of American life in the late 80s. The era of the yuppie, Gordon Gecko's 'greed is good' credo, Reaganism. Mention is made of Album Oriented Rock (for years I thought that AOR referred to American Ordinary Receipts ), Hanoi Jane, and Infomercials. The threatened witness may have been a reference to the big mob trials of the time.
That having been said, a deeper reading could be that the threatened people are witnesses to 's defence of his position. If we assume that the threatened people are those who stood opposed to American hegemony during the time (people in the eastern bloc, anyone living in a South American client-state, half the middle east), and 's position being that he was opposed to US policy, then perhaps what he is saying here is that by taking the position that he did, a position which may be seen to support those people, then the threatened would take heart and rise (and possibly reverberate) against those policies that he opposed.
Then again, who the fcuk really knows

It's okay, brief comments for a fairly brief question.

I always hear people refer to AOR as either being "Adult Orientated Rock" or "Album Orientated Rock". Whatever it is, I'm sure the south Miami businessmen love to hum to it.

Is it just me in imagining that the "businessmen in South Miami" might not exactly be in the most legal of businesses?

Page Crockett and Tubbs...

Spooky; I just looked at the wiki entry for Miami Vice: apparently, Sonny Crockett was a Wide Receiver...

Speaking of Doctor Jeep. Does anyone have an idea about who or what that is?

Meanwhile, in the Sheraton,
Doctor Jeep plays on and on and on.

The closest I've got to an answer is that this is a reference to a drum machine, cf. Doktor Avalance, but that doesn't seem very satisfactory somehow. Any ideas?

markfiend wrote:Is it just me in imagining that the "businessmen in South Miami" might not exactly be in the most legal of businesses?

Page Crockett and Tubbs...

Spooky; I just looked at the wiki entry for Miami Vice: apparently, Sonny Crockett was a Wide Receiver...

I think your hunch is right. I seem to recall Mr. E saying somewhere that the AOR-humming businessmen from South Miami are arms dealers meeting with Hizbollah terrorists.

Doctor E wrote:Speaking of Doctor Jeep. Does anyone have an idea about who or what that is?

Meanwhile, in the Sheraton,
Doctor Jeep plays on and on and on.

The closest I've got to an answer is that this is a reference to a drum machine, cf. Doktor Avalance, but that doesn't seem very satisfactory somehow. Any ideas?

I seem to think Dr Jeep was/is a piano player at the Sheraton hotel.

Dark wrote:

Doctor E wrote:Speaking of Doctor Jeep. Does anyone have an idea about who or what that is?

Meanwhile, in the Sheraton,
Doctor Jeep plays on and on and on.

The closest I've got to an answer is that this is a reference to a drum machine, cf. Doktor Avalance, but that doesn't seem very satisfactory somehow. Any ideas?

I seem to think Dr Jeep was/is a piano player at the Sheraton hotel.

the Sheraton is also a type of chair. clever eh

Dark wrote:

Doctor E wrote:Speaking of Doctor Jeep. Does anyone have an idea about who or what that is?

Meanwhile, in the Sheraton,
Doctor Jeep plays on and on and on.

The closest I've got to an answer is that this is a reference to a drum machine, cf. Doktor Avalance, but that doesn't seem very satisfactory somehow. Any ideas?

I seem to think Dr Jeep was/is a piano player at the Sheraton hotel.

I seem to remember this. There's an advert in an issue of UTR isn't there abouth this!??

"You can sell one another for 15 cents. Well bye bye mother its common sense." Always loved that line.

"Everyone shouts on I Love Lucy" is of course a reference to the Isle of Lucy Jazz-Blues Festival made famous in the film "This Is Spiñal Tap"

You can't put an umlaut on an n with unicode so I've had to make do with a tilde.

markfiend wrote:"Everyone shouts on I Love Lucy" is of course a reference to the Isle of Lucy Jazz-Blues Festival made famous in the film "This Is Spiñal Tap"

It's 09.25am and you're already doing drugs ... Frightening.

markfiend wrote:You can't put an umlaut on an n with unicode so I've had to make do with a tilde.

Spın̈al Tap

Spın̈al Tap raised the stakes in 1984 by using an umlaut over the letter N, a consonant. This is a construction found only in the Jacaltec language of Guatemala and in some orthographies of Malagasy,

That looks like Spin[]al Tap here, except with a square where I've typed []

markfiend wrote:That looks like Spin[]al Tap here, except with a square where I've typed []

you don't hae the right character set installed then. I see an "n" with an umlaut.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Heavy_metal_umlaut

Purple Light wrote:

Dark wrote:

Doctor E wrote:Speaking of Doctor Jeep. Does anyone have an idea about who or what that is?

Meanwhile, in the Sheraton,
Doctor Jeep plays on and on and on.

The closest I've got to an answer is that this is a reference to a drum machine, cf. Doktor Avalance, but that doesn't seem very satisfactory somehow. Any ideas?

I seem to think Dr Jeep was/is a piano player at the Sheraton hotel.

I seem to remember this. There's an advert in an issue of UTR isn't there abouth this!??

"You can sell one another for 15 cents. Well bye bye mother its common sense." Always loved that line.

Thanks for the information, Dark and Purple Light. This really brings the song into focus for me.

P.S. I've always admired the way Eldritch gets away with rhyming "Sheraton" with "on and on"!

I did post this suggestion many moons ago:
doctor = general practitioner or GP
general purpose vehicle = GP or jeep as it became known

I do seem to remember various people in the other place saying that Dr. Jeep was the name of the Sheraton's pianist.

As to the original question - I think it's classic Eldritch intended ambiguity.

Most of the man's lyrics are full of it.

kafka wrote:I do seem to remember various people in the other place saying that Dr. Jeep was the name of the Sheraton's pianist.

As to the original question - I think it's classic Eldritch intended ambiguity.

Most of the man's lyrics are full of it.

Might I venture Dr. Djeep, as in lighters? I know people who swear by them when Clippers aren't available...

kafka wrote:Most of the man's lyrics are full of it.

No argument there...

Christ, forgot I started this thread.

I am fairly certain that Dr Jeep refers to George Bush Sr. The idea that while american bombs are bombing things and people, Dr Jeep is by his piano, playing on and on.

Dr Jeep is Von's old linguistics professor, specializing in German and East Asian languages. He's more recently relocated to Miami.

James Blast wrote:I did post this suggestion many moons ago:
doctor = general practitioner or GP
general purpose vehicle = GP or jeep as it became known

What he said.