Heartland

This seems to be the only place where dates
are sketchy.... additionally...
I am trying to work out where the
"come together in Mercyland" boot is from???
It is credited to "bank, austria zelt 12/2/93"

does anyone have accurate info on this and the
missing dates below ?

31 July 1993 London, England Crystal Palace
04 Sept 1993 Losheim, Germany Rock Am See Festival (Headliner)
Dec 1993 Hannover, Germany Music Hall overbombing
Dec 1993 Bremen, Germany
Dec 1993 Hamburg, Germany
Dec 1993 Essen, Germany
Dec 1993 Halle, Germany
Dec 1993 London, England Brixton
Dec 1993 London, England Brixton
22 Dec 1993 Birmingham, England NEC

"Come Together in Mercyland" is the Bank Zelt Gig.

More info on the other dates , try Here.......

http://web.archive.org/web/200307281542 ... /1993.html

Personally i'm always saddened looking at the official gigography and seeing how many gigs there have been of which recordings have never surfaced

Ocean Moves wrote: does anyone have accurate info on this and the missing dates below ?
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Courtesy of The Reptile House:








Edit: Pretty sure Linz didn't happen. Curve & The Young Gods certainly didn't support them - either would have been the best bill in the world for me
They definitely played Losheim 4th September

I updated Sisterswiki some time ago with the corrects dates. Take a look here: http://www.sisterswiki.org/index.php/Gi ... verbombing

Hannover was moved from Eilenriedehalle to the smaller Music Hall due to low ticket sales. Linz was cancelled quite early, maybe even before tickets were on sales (?).

Did Leysin happen? Reading the small print there it appears Ofra Haza was also on the bill for Saturday... No live "Temple of Love" cooperation?

frankvink wrote:Did Leysin happen?

Yes...

frankvink wrote: Reading the small print there it appears Ofra Haza was also on the bill for Saturday... No live "Temple of Love" cooperation?

No...

Thanks...

itnAklipse wrote:Personally i'm always saddened looking at the official gigography and seeing how many gigs there have been of which recordings have never surfaced

On the other side of the coin I'm staggered by just how many Sisters boots are widely available. How many other bands of a similar stature, have as many boots doing the rounds?

Spiggy's hat wrote:

itnAklipse wrote:Personally i'm always saddened looking at the official gigography and seeing how many gigs there have been of which recordings have never surfaced

On the other side of the coin I'm staggered by just how many Sisters boots are widely available. How many other bands of a similar stature, have as many boots doing the rounds?

Spot on - the hit rate on the 83-84 gigs is really high considering they were a minor league indie act who'd never released an album.

The only shows that I'm surprised weren't recorded are those few early (before Hamburg) VT gigs...

There was a saying way back that The Sisters were the most bootlegged band of the 80s. Staggering really when you think about it.

markfiend wrote:There was a saying way back that The Sisters were the most bootlegged band of the 80s. Staggering really when you think about it.

I've never found the original source for that comment but there's no way it could be true - for either sales or the amount of stuff released.... Looked great in interviews/articles though!

czuczu wrote:

markfiend wrote:There was a saying way back that The Sisters were the most bootlegged band of the 80s. Staggering really when you think about it.

I've never found the original source for that comment but there's no way it could be true - for either sales or the amount of stuff released.... Looked great in interviews/articles though!

If the quote was simply refering to the amount of concert recordings available v concerts played, as oposed to the amount of Pressed vinyl (real bootlegs) I don't see why it can't be true back in that period.

Who else spent as much time on the road back then, & had a fan base so obsessed with concert recordings? I wouldn't be suprised if it boiled down to the Sisters v U2.

Spiggy's hat wrote:

czuczu wrote:

markfiend wrote:There was a saying way back that The Sisters were the most bootlegged band of the 80s. Staggering really when you think about it.

I've never found the original source for that comment but there's no way it could be true - for either sales or the amount of stuff released.... Looked great in interviews/articles though!

If the quote was simply refering to the amount of concert recordings available v concerts played, as oposed to the amount of Pressed vinyl (real bootlegs) I don't see why it can't be true back in that period.

Who else spent as much time on the road back then, & had a fan base so obsessed with concert recordings? I wouldn't be suprised if it boiled down to the Sisters v U2.

Even if it's just gigs there were pretty hardcore bootleg crowds following the big acts like Springsteen or Prince, both of whom gigged a lot back in the 80s. I'd expect even bands like the Cure would compare favourably with the amount of Sissies boots.

Kind of depends when it was first claimed too - still looking for that rare '88 gig

Might it have been "most bootlegged band on WEA"?

czuczu wrote: Might it have been "most bootlegged band on WEA"?

I think I've read something about that, and they were "more bootlegged than Prince and Madonna", which I suppose were on the same label(?) - WEA/Warner...

That quote is from the Dave Dickson interview with which didn't appear in RAW, but did appear in Heartland 4. It came from the journo though, so there's a fair chance that it was spurious assumption.

TheBoyNextDoor wrote:

czuczu wrote: Might it have been "most bootlegged band on WEA"?

I think I've read something about that, and they were "more bootlegged than Prince and Madonna", which I suppose were on the same label(?) - WEA/Warner...

Sounds a bit more familiar - they were all on Warners. I'd guess it must have been around '87 but that's a real guess... There's no chance there were more Sissies boots than Prince boots at any point during the 80s.

Edit: What Dave said too ^

Planet Dave wrote:That quote is from the Dave Dickson interview with which didn't appear in RAW, but did appear in Heartland 4. It came from the journo though, so there's a fair chance that it was spurious assumption.

Yeah it was HL I read it in I think. Nice one Centurion.

is on a radio interview(s) too i think.

something like you were a popular band to bootleg. von, the most popular it's said. was related to WEA stock and was political given that at the time, he wanted a live album released. see 'we did the b-sides anyway comment'

czuczu wrote:

markfiend wrote:There was a saying way back that The Sisters were the most bootlegged band of the 80s. Staggering really when you think about it.

I've never found the original source for that comment but there's no way it could be true - for either sales or the amount of stuff released.... Looked great in interviews/articles though!

I cut out and kept an article from The Guaridan I think from about 10-12 years ago, which listed the most bootleged bands and gave the number of known boots for each one - it was the usual: Doors, Led Zep, Dylan, Rolling Stones, etc and made no mention of the Sisters, although at the time i had been keeping a list of known Sisters boots and it far outstripped all of those above, so i could quite beleive the claim back then. Dunno if its still true nowadays though. I must try and find that article!

deadagain wrote:

czuczu wrote:

markfiend wrote:There was a saying way back that The Sisters were the most bootlegged band of the 80s. Staggering really when you think about it.

I've never found the original source for that comment but there's no way it could be true - for either sales or the amount of stuff released.... Looked great in interviews/articles though!

I cut out and kept an article from The Guaridan I think from about 10-12 years ago, which listed the most bootleged bands and gave the number of known boots for each one - it was the usual: Doors, Led Zep, Dylan, Rolling Stones, etc and made no mention of the Sisters, although at the time i had been keeping a list of known Sisters boots and it far outstripped all of those above, so i could quite beleive the claim back then. Dunno if its still true nowadays though. I must try and find that article!

wasn't the original list in record collector? might still have it, will look

This is a good read (staying firmly away from the original thread subject )



But doesn't mention the Sissies at all..
Anyone got a vague idea of how many boots were actually released?

markfiend wrote:There was a saying way back that The Sisters were the most bootlegged band of the 80s. Staggering really when you think about it.

It was all over MTV in 1992/1993 in their introduction snippets just before showing footage of being interviewed about wanting to buy a white Merc.

It's simply lazy journalism. One comes up with a good soundbite, and all the other's keep reprinting it for years afterwards.

markfiend wrote:

Planet Dave wrote:That quote is from the Dave Dickson interview with which didn't appear in RAW, but did appear in Heartland 4. It came from the journo though, so there's a fair chance that it was spurious assumption.

Yeah it was HL I read it in I think. Nice one Centurion.

It's also in the Virgin.net interview on the official TSOM page.

Alexa Williamson wrote:It's been claimed that the Sisters were one of the most bootlegged bands of the Eighties.

Andrew Eldritch wrote:The most bootlegged of all, it's said.

Referring to..

czuczu..Anyone got a vague idea of how many boots were actually released?

There used to be a great site www.merciless.net that used to list the majority of the bootlegs available. Most have graphics of the covers as well.

It listed the commercially produced bootlegs (Neon Dream, Visions at the Forum etc.) & also the fan produced ones.

Some of these fan produced ones obviously had some considerable time & effort put in to their production..Good artwork etc.

The site seems to be offline now - any idea where it went?